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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 05-24-2019, 02:05 PM
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12mbps? Ok...

I'll just leave this here

https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-4k-tra...k-a-faq/378203
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If you are direct playing 4k, then you do NOT need a hugely powerful server, you just need fast enough disk and network.
I stream 4K all the time with no issue. Note that I never said I move 5 streams of it simultaneously.

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To quote what you "just left here"


I stream 4K all the time with no issue. Note that I never said I move 5 streams of it simultaneously.
So what do you need Plex for if it isn't serving media to multiple users

Just double click the file



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So what do you need Plex for if it isn't serving media to multiple users

Just double click the file
So my daughter can watch Paw Patrol on her Chromecast while my son watches Bumblebee on his Wii while my wife watches whatever it is she watches on the Roku while my parents three states away watch Game of Thrones cast to their TV via the web app all while my friend in Japan watches Breaking Bad on his Phone, in Japan.

That's what.

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So my daughter can watch Paw Patrol on her Chromecast while my son watches Bumblebee on his Wii while my wife watches whatever it is she watches on the Roku while my parents three states away watch Game of Thrones cast to their TV via the web app all while my friend in Japan watches Breaking Bad on his Phone, in Japan.

That's what.
So when you say:

"Plex doesn't need anywhere near the power people think it does. "

What do you base this on? A couple 420p streams? The power you need quite subjective

My machine can't keep up with the demand I've put on it to the point where I've been looking into projects like UnicornTranscoder to distribute the load. Haven't got around to trying it out though



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I stream 4K all the time with no issue. Note that I never said I move 5 streams of it simultaneously.
Direct play 4K or is it transcoding?

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Plex is absolutely going to utilize all the core you can IF you are transcoding multiple streams, if you're just playing the files directly and don't need to transcode/encode then the resources are minimal.

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Ryzen is 100000% the way to go. In fact, I'm upgrading my FreeNAS server and have it almost completed. Ryzen is great because it supports ECC RAM (Asrock and Asus tend to have the best support) which ideally you should use for a NAS. You also get high core counts for cheap unlike Xeon, so you can run plenty of VMs and still have the horsepower to do a lot of Plex transcoding. You should REALLY consider ECC RAM in a NAS, and the pricing isn't terrible like it used to be especially on the model you'll see I used below. My upgraded server is as follows:

3U SuperMicro 933T-R760B (got on eBay around $300)- backplane has 15 hot swappable SATA ports on the front and 3 PSUs with redundancy so that if one fails it will still keep running
Asrock X370 Taichi- great board for a NAS since it is one of the few that has 10 SATA ports, so you might not need a dedicated RAID/HBA card. Superb hardware quality with 12k capacitors, strong VRM, and outstanding ECC support. Also supports hotswapping SATA drives which probably most boards do this, but some lower end may not.
Ryzen 1700- great because it's 8core/16 thread and reasonably priced, and has ECC support. Depending on current pricing and your needs you could go with a Zen+ like 2600 or 2700 if they go on sale.
4 x 16GB CT16G4WFD8266 ECC RAM- it POSTed first time with all 4 slots at 2666mhz with ECC enabled. I highly recommend this RAM as it's not super pricey. If your usable storage is 30TB or less 32GB of RAM should be enough. Just make sure to run in pairs of two because Ryzen is finicky with odd number of ECC and you probably won't get it working right
10 x 5TB Toshiba X300 hard drives- not the best for a NAS but I'll have plenty of redundancy in case they fail. Hard drive choice is up to you, NAS/Enterprise hard drives are usually a much better choice but I couldn't pass these drives up as they regularly go on sale for $99.99 (currently on Newegg right now)
Visiontek HD5450- just used for initial setup basically. After setup I just SSH into it for management or use FreeNAS webgui.
Two random flash drives for the OS. FreeNAS does little writing to the drives except for configuration and updates. I've used this setup for about two years in my current FreeNAS (specs under my signature) and had one fail- super easy to replace and rebuild the redundancy

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I do watch many films with subtitles. In fact, I can highly recommend both Roma and Cold War. Like audio and video, subtitles are just additional streams embedded within the file. There is no reason to re-encode.

This depends on the format the subtitles are in. Some formats require plex to transcode the video on the fly with subtitles on the video stream, and this can be a serious struggle with 4k video files.






@CiBi You could try Emby instead, it is basically the same as Plex but they have a little different interface. There are some things Emby does that I like better and some things Plex does that I like better. Both use ffmpeg as their backend, and Emby uses MadVR too. Not sure if Plex does or not. However Emby supports using Radeon GPUs as hardware transcoders, where Plex does not. The people behind Plex insiust that they will add support when ffmpeg adds it, but they have had support for a long time now and Plex devs still do nothing. Lately it seems they dont care at all about their users anymore and are far more interested in commercializing the platform and using it as for profit and internet streaming, rather than home user streaming.

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This depends on the format the subtitles are in. Some formats require plex to transcode the video on the fly with subtitles on the video stream, and this can be a serious struggle with 4k video files.






@CiBi You could try Emby instead, it is basically the same as Plex but they have a little different interface. There are some things Emby does that I like better and some things Plex does that I like better. Both use ffmpeg as their backend, and Emby uses MadVR too. Not sure if Plex does or not. However Emby supports using Radeon GPUs as hardware transcoders, where Plex does not. The people behind Plex insiust that they will add support when ffmpeg adds it, but they have had support for a long time now and Plex devs still do nothing. Lately it seems they dont care at all about their users anymore and are far more interested in commercializing the platform and using it as for profit and internet streaming, rather than home user streaming.

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