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post #31 of 99 (permalink) Old 09-19-2016, 07:38 PM
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Don't worry guys the free market will straighten this all out and save the consumers. No need to regulate anything!
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Don't worry guys the free market will straighten this all out and save the consumers. No need to regulate anything!

Funny you should say that since the DMCA is what would prevent the free-market from making another firmware option that doesn't do this.

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Stopped buying HP quite a while ago, but it's getting harder and harder to find manufacturers that don't pull this sort of crap.
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Funny you should say that since the DMCA is what would prevent the free-market from making another firmware option that doesn't do this.

"Free market" and "capitalism" take a lot of flak for problems that are often caused by decades of anti-competitive, mixed-economy, regulation.

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The free market would fix this... all people have to do is stop buying HP printers because of the DRM cartridges.

If people still buy them despite the DRM cartridges... it's apparently not really an issue, and shouldn't be regulated.

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On September 13, reports started pouring in from people who owned the same Envy printer as the content-looking woman above.

Not to be anal, but the photo in the original post clearly shows a laser toner printer, not an HP Envy.

THIS is the original photo...



BTW I got so fed up with the B.S. of dealing with ink (aligning/calibrating/priming/cleaning ect.) that I vowed to never again use an ink jet printer so I got myself a Brother laser printer. A $40 toner cartridge can get you 2,000 pages compared to 200 pages that you can get from an inkjet printer. Inkjet printers waste ink even when you're not printing. Nope.

The laser printer costs more but pays for itself many times over in toner. Plus you get full duplex, a document feeder and scanner, and network connectivity for a home office.
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The alternative to this is printer prices going through the roof. You guys do realize that the majority of money in the printing industry is made on ink cartridges, right? Printers today are so cheap and do so much that the manufacturers literally bet on the fact that you will buy a cheap printer and then spend a ton on ink.



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You guys sure you are using the right synonym of pedantic?
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Is this only for this particular printer? I thought Brother and Canon were the ones doing this, and HPs were refillable.
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Not to be anal, but the photo in the original post clearly shows a laser toner printer, not an HP Envy.

THIS is the original photo...



BTW I got so fed up with the B.S. of dealing with ink (aligning/calibrating/priming/cleaning ect.) that I vowed to never again use an ink jet printer so I got myself a Brother laser printer. A $40 toner cartridge can get you 2,000 pages compared to 200 pages that you can get from an inkjet printer. Inkjet printers waste ink even when you're not printing. Nope.

The laser printer costs more but pays for itself many times over in toner. Plus you get full duplex, a document feeder and scanner, and network connectivity for a home office.

Have to agree neither of those like like credible sources and of great validity.

With that being said though all print manufacturers purposely CODE (updates or firmware) that tell you to buy consumables far more often and frequent than is actually required - and it isn't hard to find ways to "switch them off" or diffuse them.

I work for the Australian Fed. Govt and even with our large scale MFD (ApeosPort V C5575) were told to "just ignore the prompts" for "toner needs replacing", etc.

They all try and "rip us off" - google and learn how to disable the "false positives".

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This is why I only buy Brother printers, and make sure my work does too.

Never had any issues with the Brother laser printers I own and will continue to use them as my primary printer.
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Who buys ink cartridges anyway? It's cheaper just to buy a new printer.

Which tells you everything you need to know about the consumer printer market.

This is why I use a continuous ink supply system on my two older HP printers. And if I do run into an issue with a cartridge, I just grab a recycled two pack off ebay for $10 - $15 (depending on black or color) and if they don't work right, the company has sent me replacements free of charge. So I have not and will not support HP directly anymore.

I will never touch a printer that has a programmed chip on the cartridges ever again. Had an Epson printer that had those and had a chip re setter for when I refilled them, such a pain in the ass, never again.

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I bought an Epson Eco SuperTank Printer. Works great and tons of ink. Decent photo print too.

This thing prints and prints and prints and the ink just lasts!

Expensive upfront cost, but totally worth it after about a year of kids and wife printing on it.

I have considered getting one of those, but that steep price point throws it out the window for me. I'll just keep using my old HP printers with CISS and cheap ink from amazon /ebay for my color printing needs until those come down to a price I can afford.

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