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post #101 of 374 (permalink) Old 03-12-2017, 10:15 AM
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Interesting point about pricing! I've been seeing Intel Z* motherboards get heavily slashed in price recently, along with modest price cuts across the Intel series of CPUs.

AMD needs to bring in R5 and R3 soon to fill in the sub-$300 market.
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LOL only 4% Intel users are running their CPUs at equal to or above 3.7 GHz !??
This literally proves >95% Intel users don't overclock.

Imo, If you exclude steam survey, the difference should be even greater, I say 99.9999% both Intel/AMD users don't overclock at global scale.

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LOL only 4% Intel users are running their CPUs at equal to or above 3.7 GHz !??
This literally proves >95% Intel users don't overclock.

Imo, If you exclude steam survey, the difference should be even greater, I say 99.9999% both Intel/AMD users don't overclock at global scale.

So we can trust the Steam survey for Intel clock speeds, but not for Nvidia GPU market share? What about AMD CPU market share, can we trust that?

I need a guide book.

Forceman's Law: Any AMD/Nvidia GPU thread, no matter what the topic, will eventually include a post referencing the GTX 970.
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To me, RyZen's IPC is looking almost = Kaby Lake IPC, even in games.
But without any bias I have to say that i7 7700k is winning in some games because it has higher default and turbo speed than AMD.

Except the Pentium G part which is still pretty awesome deal from Intel for essential PC. AMD has literally killed every single other CPUs in terms of performance per dollar and cores per dollar.

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So we can trust the Steam survey for Intel clock speeds, but not for Nvidia GPU market share? What about AMD CPU market share, can we trust that?

I need a guide book.

No no I agree with you. I perceive you are coming from any of our old memories regarding Nvidia/AMD gpus and steam survey.
But I have to confess, nVidia GPU have significantly larger market share and this is nothing but AMD's fault of late launching. Edit: ..also AMD high ends are also happen to be a little slower than counterparts.

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We're good, I was joking.

Don't forget that the Steam survey includes a lot of laptops though (based on the resolution numbers), and may only be reporting base clocks for the CPUs.

AMD needs to get Ryzen based APUs out in a hurry, the 4c/8t parts aren't going to make much business/OEM headway without iGPUs.

Forceman's Law: Any AMD/Nvidia GPU thread, no matter what the topic, will eventually include a post referencing the GTX 970.
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Shouldn't this one be compared to a X370? Those boards get better vrms for higher OC.

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Don't forget that the Steam survey includes a lot of laptops

This should be the real takeaway. The most common frequencies are between 2.3 Ghz to 2.69 Ghz which is the typical range for laptop CPUs. The 2nd most common are between 3.3 Ghz to 3.69 Ghz which coincide with non-K i3 and i5 desktop parts.

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Shouldn't this one be compared to a X370? Those boards get better vrms for higher OC.

Let's wait unit we have motherboard reviews before we make any claims on OC capacity due to boards.

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Gaming is about the only point of contention where there is any possible point to be made, but honestly for the 99 % of people who game on 60 hz monitors... it would be just plain silly to go with the 7700 K for the same money. Regardless if the 7700k had an advantage in gaming or not - you'd never see it. But if you want to stream, encode etc... you'd certainly see the difference there.
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If you don't have a framerate counter on screen, none. I know I couldn't tell the difference between a Ryzen 8 core and a high clocked KL i7 on games, even with my 144hz monitor.

RTS gamers would beg to differ.

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