Originally Posted by philhalo66
because if you need to underclock a processor then its unfair. same if they were to underclock ryzen to compare it with a celeron.
Which Celeron? Compare it to any Celeron just disable the cores/smt and underclock it. Compare it to the FX line, same thing. It's all relative. Just like comparing Broadwell-E to SK/KB, adjust to same clock speed to see the improvements in IPC. It's not exact science obviously, but it's what people have done for the past 15 years+......until Ryzen got released, and all of a sudden it didn't matter anymore
The whole point of it is to see the architecture improvements. Which for Ryzen is HUGE and bodes well for further optimization and Zen+/2.