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Then get a TV. HDR PC monitors are a joke compared to these.
The "acceptable" PC HDR monitors are $2K+ and they are nowhere near TV's with FALD or OLED when it comes to HDR.

Both software (tons of bugs) and hardware really lacks on PC when it comes to HDR support. TVs and consoles are many years ahead.

Recently tested the Samsung C27HG70, DisplayHDR600 certified, and it had terrible HDR compared to my OLED TV. Close to useless.
Edge lit LCD and HDR is a big no-no and this is what most PC HDR monitors have.
Tv's is a joke without DP and 144hz 4k input. Usless
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Tv's is a joke without DP and 144hz 4k input. Usless
Well if you want proper HDR, TV's are where it's at.

HDR is a joke on PC monitors. Both software and hardware are years behind TV's and consoles in terms of HDR support.

There's native 120 Hz 4K TVs with proper HDR support. No DP obviously.

2160p at 144 Hz, good luck maxing out newer games haha, not even 2080 Ti is going to do it well and multi GPU is pretty much dead at this point, unless you're only benching.

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Well if you want proper HDR, TV's are where it's at.

HDR is a joke on PC monitors. Both software and hardware are years behind TV's and consoles in terms of HDR support.

There's native 120 Hz 4K TVs with proper HDR support. No DP obviously.

2160p at 144 Hz, good luck maxing out newer games haha, not even 2080 Ti is going to do it well and multi GPU is pretty much dead at this point, unless you're only benching.

It's called future-proofing. I for one look forward to having a monitor that I can't max out right out the box. Would be a pleasant change to get some longevity out of it.


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It's called future-proofing. I for one look forward to having a monitor that I can't max out right out the box. Would be a pleasant change to get some longevity out of it.
There's nothing futureproof about a DisplayHDR 400/600 monitor. The HDR experience is terrible. Seen multiple now. My OLED TV blows them away, with ease. Day and night difference.

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There's nothing futureproof about a DisplayHDR 400/600 monitor. The HDR experience is terrible. Seen multiple now. My OLED TV blows them away, with ease. Day and night difference.
was more referring to the 4k 144hz


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was more referring to the 4k 144hz
Ah I see that makes sense then, my 1080 Ti sucks for 4K gaming IMO so with 2080 Ti or better it might work fine with degraded visuals, looking forward to Turing 7nm refresh myself

I guess the problem with 2160p at 144 Hz is that price is $2K+ and only 120 Hz is 4:4:4 capable

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Ah I see that makes sense then, my 1080 Ti sucks for 4K gaming IMO so with 2080 Ti or better it might work fine with degraded visuals, looking forward to Turing 7nm refresh myself

I guess the problem with 2160p at 144 Hz is that price is $2K+ and only 120 Hz is 4:4:4 capable

That's true, didn't think about the added bandwidth requirements for HDR 4:4:4. Ugh, looks like the bandwidth of the cables and their ports are gonna continue to be a thorn.


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Well if you want proper HDR, TV's are where it's at.

HDR is a joke on PC monitors. Both software and hardware are years behind TV's and consoles in terms of HDR support.

There's native 120 Hz 4K TVs with proper HDR support. No DP obviously.

2160p at 144 Hz, good luck maxing out newer games haha, not even 2080 Ti is going to do it well and multi GPU is pretty much dead at this point, unless you're only benching.
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There's nothing futureproof about a DisplayHDR 400/600 monitor. The HDR experience is terrible. Seen multiple now. My OLED TV blows them away, with ease. Day and night difference.

Where are you getting 400/600? the pg27uq is 1000nits, I too have an OLED TV, and a PG27UQ, and the HDR is great on the monitor, almost as good as my tv, short of the Haloing, the haloing sucks, but that is the nature of FALD, nothing can be done about it. OLED is going to screen burn, and TVs 120hz is a lie, and you wont hold 120 consistently so when a TV is actually 120hz, has DP (how you going to do 120hz without DP? oh ya, you aint) and Gsync, we will talk .

Also, got a 2080ti, still on Air (blocks here, waiting on a few other loop upgrades to get here), and I can get 120 on Witcher 3, and couple other games I tried, didn't try 144hz, as you have to drop to 4:2:2 for that. You have to drop HDR if you go above 98hz too.

And what is "Proper HDR support", I would say HDR 10 is pretty proper hdr support, which the Swift has, so...


Edit: went back and read the first post in the chain, ya some of the stuff you say is true. Its buggy, it doesn't always work right with windows, however saying that the PG27UQ doesn't compete with Fald TVs is just false. Its actually better in a lot of ways, such as the haloing, its a small screen, so the 384 lighting zones dont carry as far, Fald 65inch with 384 zones is horrid. I feel like from reading your posts, you dont know much about the monitor, and have not experienced in real life. Is it perfect, no, are there TVs that are better? yes, they also carry a higher price tag.

If you know of a TV under 2k, that can reach 1000 nits full screen, I would love to see it, because AFAIK, they do not exist.

Ill just leave this, https://www.anandtech.com/show/13060...c-hdr-review/6 and 80, is lowwww. That slider goes, high, I got to like 200 before I couldn't look it as my eyes were going to bleed, and at 80, its 1032 brightness lol. Which isnt really surprising my old monitor claims 300nits, and it at max brightness is not as bright as the Swift in SDR at 35%. I checked the slider for ya, I got to 240, and and it was hurting my eyes too much to keep going, as I was a foot away, and on this page (white screen) it was like looking at the sun, that was 1/3 the way about, so it goes to about 500.

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No PC HDR monitor comes close to OLED TV's HDR. Actually, they don't even come close to high-end HDR TV's. If these monitors were TV's, they'd be mid-range in terms of HDR quality.

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