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I expect portability = touchscreen, but no go on that aspect.

it's a start i guess, i feel like this might actually be somewhat reasonably priced.

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And 21"? Why...
You'd have to ask JOLED, the company that made these, but the guess is that bigger than 21'' would probably not be very usable for its intended purposes. The fact that this is coming out as a "designer" monitor is just another use Asus decided to give the panel.

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YUS!

I've been wondering when stuff like this was going to come around. We have all these awesome laptop displays, but barely any good portable displays. Put me down for 3.
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I am so sick of resolution > framerates/hz
Give me a 1080p 144hz+ 24"~ OLED

Like why are we starting out with 4K OLED? Aren't prices enough of a problem with OLED monitors as it is?
Lets not go with a reasonable resolution or anything for anywhere near a reasonable price
And 21"? Why...
Because JOLED.



This is not a new panel, it has been around a while, just no one sold it in brands like Asus to the masses.
Why don't they print a 24-30" 4k I have no idea either. OLED is easier to manufacture than LCD, and cheaper when mass produced.
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But, the benefits of 4K over 1440 typically are outweighed by the drawbacks, especially with TV and film.
? There is no drawback to 4k over 1440p as far as I know. Scaling 1080p to 4k is easy and modern movies are shot 6k+ meaning the 4k blurays actually don't look like upscaled garbage. Being too close to the screen is definitely an issue with large screens of 32" and above and having a source that is 1080p only :/ Such as watching movies on PC on large screens you can see all the lack of detail, on 27" it's not so bad but 32" was very very noticeable.
4k for gaming... yeah that's an overkill until companies learn to make rendering more optimized, there have been some attempts but more of it probably needs to be done in hardware itself to support it. The variable rendering quality center of screen vs sides, and dynamic quality adjustment altogether to keep a certain minimum frame rate.
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2018 - 21.6"
2019 - 27" + ?

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2018 - 21.6"
2019 - 27" + ?
2016 = 21.6"
2017 = 21.7"
2018 = 21.8"
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R.I.P.

It's a 2016 panel. Just sold by Asus in a product in 2018. Can't blame them though, it's JOLED that takes time to get them out. LG is worse IMHO, they are sitting on the OLED and only willing to sell huge panels for TVs.

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In June 2017 JOLED announced that it started to sample 21.6" 4K OLED panels, with plans to initiate low volume production at its 4.5-Gen pilot inkjet production line. JOLED announced today that it has began commercial shipments of these panels. We do not know JOLED's first customer but it is likely to be Sony.

JOLED first commercial 21.6'' 4K OLED panels photo on glass

JOLED says that it has now achieved the necessary product quality and production yields. The product was already selected for use in medical monitors (again, we believe this is Sony, who we know received JOLED's first samples and already has its own 25" OLED medical monitor that uses Sony's own OLEDs). JOLED also aims to ship these panes to other OLED monitors applications.

Is the ASUS one also glass? Or do they have another version?

So far from all info it seems JOLED is still on low volume = prices are higher than mass produced would be, but it is an ink jet printed panel. Mass production 2019, meanwhile LG is a happy camper.
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Resolution 3,840(RGB) x 2,160, 204 ppi
Peak luminance 350 cd/m2
Contrast ratio 1,000,000:1
Panel thickness 1.3 mm
Weight 500 g

And the huge LG OLEDs are probably made using different technique, and I read medium sized are not well suited for it, no idea why, are all small OLEDs printed and the huge ones use different method? Leaving the PC market = medium size completely dead for now? Seems silly that some technique would have size limitations.

Meanwhile even stupid car lights are OLED now and PC monitor market is left to die. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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We need HDR G-sync [email protected] 32" OLED Display NOW!!!

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We need HDR G-sync [email protected] 32" OLED Display NOW!!!

I think we'll hope for a long time , Burn in and Image retention we can overcome on them in TVs because the TVs are used for movies most of the time so OLED with perfect blacks will do very well and can ignore any isseus with it .
But OLED won't be suitable for gaming for a long time and this is why we don't see any OLED PC Monitos so far .
Yes , for me i love the perfect black levels for OLED and the PQ is an excellent but Burn in and image retention makes me skip it and wait for Micro-Led whether for TVs or PC Monitors .
I don't need to be happy the first 2 years with Oled and by the time begin to face problems with it . I can't force anyone in my family to run a particular thing or for a certain period of time in order to maintain OLED and avoid its problems . So i doubt OLED will last for 5 years without any problems and the best solution is waiting for Micro-Led .
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what's all this micro-LED talk?

has anyone actually worked with one yet?

because I remember everyone gushing about OLED in the same way just 5 years ago.
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Meanwhile even stupid car lights are OLED now and PC monitor market is left to die. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

lol my mobo has an OLED status bar
so does the NAS
so does my camera lens, for crying out loud

but I thought only the tech is the same but it's much, much more primitive (monochrome) than full-fledged display panels?

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what's all this micro-LED talk?

has anyone actually worked with one yet?

It has all the benefits of OLED with none of the downsides (in theory).


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because I remember everyone gushing about OLED in the same way just 5 years ago.

And it's every bit as great as people hoped. Except for the burn in. Which MicroLED shouldn't have.
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