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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 09-07-2018, 11:20 AM - Thread Starter
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[WCCF] NVIDIA VP & CFO: Turing Is One of Our Largest Architectural Leaps

Comments were made during the Citi 2018 Global Technology Conference Call. Details below plus link:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-cfo-turi...largest-leaps/

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Kress said that it’s a major leap that people probably weren’t expecting for another ten to fifteen years, clearly referring to the built-in ray-tracing capabilities. She then stated that there’ll likely be a 2x performance improvement without factoring ray-tracing, and 6x with ray-tracing enabled. Overall, she said, the performance improvement is much greater than the overall price of the new cards.

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Probably compared to old reference model that is thermal throttling vs new that is not, with added anti aliasing trickery.
With same AA settings and no thermal throttling it will be same kind of jump as 9 - 10 series, so +30-50%.

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I think she be writing checks Nvidias a$$ cant cash.....


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If what she's saying is true, Turing is going to last long in the tooth.
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Kress holds a B.Sc. degree in Finance from University of Arizona and an MBA from Southern Methodist University. She does have experience working in finance for other tech companies though.

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What follows might explain some of her logic though:

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Comments were made during the Citi 2018 Global Technology Conference Call. Details below plus link:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-cfo-turi...largest-leaps/

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TWICE the performance WITHOUT ray tracing....



Wow. She said TWO TIMES ON EXISTING GAMES:



Is she crazy? Does someone at nVidia need to muzzle her? Or does she know what she's talking about?

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It's likely based on that stupid "2x" slide that used upscaling to make the 2080 look better vs the 1080 when really in the games they picked there was on average a ~30% increase at best.

This is not a new statement, just another person repeating the same BS marketing claims nvidia has already been making.
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Nvidia's very own Tom Petersen already said in a video podcast that in current games the 2080 Ti will be 35% - 45% faster in current games, so her comments can only be attributed to overzealous marketing.

Some games may perform 2x better when the older card is running with traditional AA and the new one with DLSS. The problem is that DLSS works just SLI in one respect: each game needs a profile. And for now it seems that it has to be Nvidia delivering it. Maybe large game developers with a cluster of Nvidia cards can also develop the deep learning profile to then include in their games without Nvidia's involvement, but make no mistake, this is game dependent and has to be done for each game, and from what I read for current games it takes around a week to deliver said model/profile on their end.

And on that note, OP, please change the title of the thread, because it's not what the original title says. I know you have to shorten it for length reasons, but saying "2x Perf w/o RTX!" is not only not what she said but actually confuses the matter a great deal. Why? Because she said:

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We will likely see a 2x improvement without even dealing with overall ray-tracing on your existing games in terms of existing performance.

Without "ray tracing" is the key, not without RTX. You see, RTX encompasses both ray tracing and DLSS. In the case of DLSS only the Tensor cores intervene (aside from the work done previously on Nvidia's end).



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Quote: Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
Nvidia's very own Tom Petersen already said in a video podcast that in current games the 2080 Ti will be 35% - 45% faster in current games, so her comments can only be attributed to overzealous marketing.

Some games may perform 2x better when the older card is running with traditional AA and the new one with DLSS. The problem is that DLSS works just SLI in one respect: each game needs a profile. And for now it seems that it has to be Nvidia delivering it. Maybe large game developers with a cluster of Nvidia cards can also develop the deep learning profile to then include in their games without Nvidia's involvement, but make no mistake, this is game dependent and has to be done for each game, and from what I read for current games it takes around a week to deliver said model/profile on their end.

And on that note, OP, please change the title of the thread, because it's not what the original title says. I know you have to shorten it for length reasons, but saying "2x Perf w/o RTX!" is not only not what she said but actually confuses the matter a great deal. Why? Because she said:




Without "ray tracing" is the key, not without RTX. You see, RTX encompasses both ray tracing and DLSS. In the case of DLSS only the Tensor cores intervene (aside from the work done previously on Nvidia's end).
The tensor cores are almost as exciting as the RT cores to me.

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More damage control from Nvidia.

Its like they keep ignoring the pricing of these cards.

Sure the 2080 vrs 1080 performance is there no doubt. But the problem is with the big price hike now your comparing the 2080 to the 1080ti and things dont look so good in that situation for the 2080.

Its like nvidia forget there selling to gamers who tend to hold there wallet close to there chest. The 1060 was the best selling card of the 10 series for a reason.


As for the 2080ti well its in its own price bracket now. Really it could have had a 10% performance bump over the 1080ti and people will still buy it. There always thoses people who will pay whatever to chase thoses last few frames
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Predatory sales tactics suck, but when you are that far out in front with performance, you kind of get to write your own check. I would love to see AMD do to Nvidia what they have done to Intel. I am well aware I am going to overpay for a 2080TI when it comes to existing game performance, but I am going to do it anyway, because I want the performance, I want to play with Ray Tracing, and I want to see what these Tensor cores are all about.


That was a long conference call to read through. It does sound like an exciting card to own, even if the price of admission is through the roof.

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