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post #21 of 96 (permalink) Old 12-16-2018, 04:57 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
They added more capacitors probably for ripple suppression so when deliding you risk ripping some off as they are very close to the IHS edges all around. And it's soldered so the pressure to sheer that much solder + silicone "glue" is quite high. Capacitors on all 4 sides right next to IHS edge, you move it in any direction you rip some off. Fixable but a royal pain for almost on gain and massive risk on expensive component.

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I'll be grabbing this chip just as soon as it's available. I've been waiting a very long time for this type of chip...
I will be skipping it won't be switching from 7980xe until we get pci express 4.0 board
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Not sure what you're saying, but in addition to the native 64 PCIe lanes in Threadripper, "The interlink between the Threadripper processor and X399 chipset is a 4x PCIE Gen 3 link - and then your X399 chipset will also offer additional 20 (!) PCIe Gen 2 lanes and 12 (!) SATA3 ports. @ guru3D"

Don't get me wrong, until last week, when I got my Threadripper 2950X and MSI Meg X399, I had only owned Intel CPUs (since back in the day of that infamous Cyrix 100 I inherited when in school..). 90% of my active PCs and servers are Intel-powered.

But for right now, it looks like Intel is doing a lot of paper launches, and/or 'hail Mary's', until they can properly respond not only via design but via manufacturing execution - at which point in time, I will rejoice as a consumer about all that real choice competition created when AMD got serious and back on their feet...for now though, AMD got my upgrade money for at least the next 12 months, depending how Zen2 comes in.
I am saying is that you can't use more pci-e lanes in the 4. pci-e x16 slots with threadripper than Intel x99/x299 plattform. You just can't benefit the extra pci-e lanes with x399. 64 pci--e lanes sounds great, but it's usless unless you use many m.2 ssd's. PS I have x399 with 1950x TR. x399 pci-e ports is still x16-x8-x16-x8 eletrical.

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I wonder what the performance difference will be vs the 2990WX? While the Intel will likely clock better, TR still has 14% more cores. The 7980XE already requires fairly extreme cooling to get to the upper 4 GHz range, adding 10 additional cores will create even more heat. Even if this chip is soldered, under a "normal" watercooling system I would guess the W-3175X will top out around 4.3-4.4 GHz. 5 is possible with phase change, as Intel demonstrated, but most commonly available phase change units probably couldn't dissipate that much heat.

The six channel memory is interesting to see, it will be like the old LGA 1366 days.

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What's this obsession with PCI_E lanes? I mean, as we know SLI beyond 2 GPU's is dead. And apart from running multiple M.2 Drives etc, there is really no need for beyond 44 with todays platforms.

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Quote: Originally Posted by animeowns View Post
I will be skipping it won't be switching from 7980xe until we get pci express 4.0 board
PCI-E 4.0 really isn't desperately needed...and if folks who'd like one hold off on picking one up, there might not be a second one for later generations. This is undoubtedly a feeler chip put out by Intel to gauge market demand for such a chip, and if it's decently received, the SKU stack may expand considerably in the future (with a possibility of dual capable chips in the future if demand is strong enough)

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What's this obsession with PCI_E lanes? I mean, as we know SLI beyond 2 GPU's is dead. And apart from running multiple M.2 Drives etc, there is really no need for beyond 44 with todays platforms.
Because, gaming is the last thing that people use multiple GPUs for.

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Also, the "but our present needs don't completely max it out right now" argument is always a poor one when it comes to interconnects and connectivity. It's a silly argument.

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Also, the "but our present needs don't completely max it out right now" argument is always a poor one when it comes to interconnects and connectivity. It's a silly argument.
This is more the general "But our needs are met, why should we do this?" type of stuff that holds back progress.

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