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post #11 of 53 (permalink) Old 01-07-2019, 05:35 PM
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The names are more and more cringeworthy with every iteration. Who are they building these things for ?
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They also released the new PRIME X299-DELUXE II recently, and that at least had decent finned heat sink. Do not care for motherboards with HIGH-RPM fans and would have preferred a real heat sink on such a high-end board.

Also, what is with the PCIE slots on this board?

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Also, the EVGA X299 Dark just seems to be a better overall overclocker board with better VRMs, PCIE slots, cooling, and placement of the more commonly used switches and buttons.

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Who are these boards for? That pcie slot layout is borderline useless. Massive downgrade from the current extreme boards.
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Quote: Originally Posted by nyxagamemnon View Post
1. Fake 16 Phase VRM
2. Recycled Z390 Look
3. Reduced HEDT PCIE slots and orientation ? LOL
4. Very poor power and reset button placement? LOL
5. Cost cutting ftl!


Yeah been buying the rampage since 2011 and 2019 it's dead this is a regression this isn't a HEDT board anymore with proper pcie spacing and # of slots it's like they took the z390 design and slapped a 2066 socket on it and called it a day.
To be fair x4 SLI was never really useful for anything beyond epeen. And even x2 SLI is pretty much dead in 2019. But yeah if they're gonna cut PCIe slots they really ought to throw something else in there, so still agreed they're clearly cost-cutting and this doesn't deserve the ROG branding.

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Wonder if the X399 board actually is better than the $300 X399 Taichi or the X399M Taichi which is $280 let alone the MSI MEG Creation which is likely the same price.


Old Zenith Extreme was already over $500 and I doubt it is 2X better than a X399 Taichi in any form.
Any form?

As someone who uses Threadripper for running multiple VMs and utilizing hardware passthrough, ASUS blows all other manufacturers out of the water. Their BIOS revisions, passthrough friendly controllers, easy hardware IOMMU groups, Linux stability, and active hardware reps here on OCN make my life 1000x easier.

In my use case, you can’t put a price on VM stability and features. MSi has been laughable in the VM world on X399 and the Taichi still has multiple day one VM capability issues that they refuse to solve. This is unacceptable for a platform designed for power users who commonly work with VMs and/or Linux.

The Zenith board frequently goes on sale for around $400-$420 too.

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Quote: Originally Posted by magnek View Post
To be fair x4 SLI was never really useful for anything beyond epeen. And even x2 SLI is pretty much dead in 2019. But yeah if they're gonna cut PCIe slots they really ought to throw something else in there, so still agreed they're clearly cost-cutting and this doesn't deserve the ROG branding.
I just care about multi-GPU support in general especially with the ever growing performance requirements of running displays and games at higher-resolutions, refresh rates, and so on. Now we got [email protected]>120Hz 4:4:4 HDR 10-Bit displays rolling in, that's quite a bit of requirements piling on some games with their growing baselines. Only a few of the really demanding games I have that don't support multi-GPU are still in-alpha, so not a big issue for me.

However, a lot of my PCIE lane requirements these days is for SSDs and for bifurcation.

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Personally think the re-fresh Zenith Alpha has really bad PCI-E slot placement, what is it with Asus and doing that at the moment ? In any case after the poor show from Asus on supporting the Zenith Extreme I would be hesitant to step in the Asus AMD camp again.


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Most interesting bit is the 4.525ghz shown on the alpha board's screen.

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Any form?

As someone who uses Threadripper for running multiple VMs and utilizing hardware passthrough, ASUS blows all other manufacturers out of the water. Their BIOS revisions, passthrough friendly controllers, easy hardware IOMMU groups, Linux stability, and active hardware reps here on OCN make my life 1000x easier.

In my use case, you can’t put a price on VM stability and features. MSi has been laughable in the VM world on X399 and the Taichi still has multiple day one VM capability issues that they refuse to solve. This is unacceptable for a platform designed for power users who commonly work with VMs and/or Linux.

The Zenith board frequently goes on sale for around $400-$420 too.
To be Honest I don't own a x399 from msi but have owned pretty much every other socket.. Maybe not the top board but always close to it..
And Msi is so easy to use their bios my little sister could oc my 9900k..
And maybe asus used to be better looks like they keep going downhill..
Aso why would you need any help? from ocn to make your life 1000x easier,for such a great board miles ahead of competition.
Also lets hope your board does not have any issues where you need to rma because they are the worst company to deal with ever.

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Quote: Originally Posted by nyxagamemnon View Post
1. Fake 16 Phase VRM
2. Recycled Z390 Look
3. Reduced HEDT PCIE slots and orientation ? LOL
4. Very poor power and reset button placement? LOL
5. Cost cutting ftl!


Yeah been buying the rampage since 2011 and 2019 it's dead this is a regression this isn't a HEDT board anymore with proper pcie spacing and # of slots it's like they took the z390 design and slapped a 2066 socket on it and called it a day.
Yeah, pretty much. Though the aluminum shroud is copied over from the Dominus Extreme. It also looks like they moved the power and start button because of the added fan headers to power the (noisey) VRM fans.

I might pick up a second hand Rampage Apex or X299 Dark at this point

Quote: Originally Posted by magnek View Post
To be fair x4 SLI was never really useful for anything beyond epeen. And even x2 SLI is pretty much dead in 2019. But yeah if they're gonna cut PCIe slots they really ought to throw something else in there, so still agreed they're clearly cost-cutting and this doesn't deserve the ROG branding.
Who said anything about 4 way SLI was the only use for 4 PCIe slots? A well connected PC can easily fill those slots. I've got a GPU, Sound Card, Intel 10GBE NIC, and a Thunderbolt card in all 4 slots.

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