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post #21 of 49 (permalink) Old 01-14-2019, 10:29 AM
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Bring on the V100 gaming cards! I'm sure the price will be reasonable.
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That's called a Titan V
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Volta/Turing weren't designed for gaming just Like Vega 20 wasn't designed for gaming. Doesn't mean they can't game if they have game ready drivers like the Titan V.
See where I'm going with this? None are relevant to the original comment anyway...big die cards are available for all.

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See where I'm going with this? None are relevant to the original comment anyway...big die cards are available for all.
Your comment was regarding V100 which there is a GV100 card that can be used for gaming. Or if you want to be more specific a Titan V CEO edition which had the same exact specs as a 32GB Tesla V100.

The only reason nVidias dies are big are due to specialized cores dedicated for AI called Tensor cores.

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AMD same as Nvidia cuts out all the "cool" features that enthusiasts would find interesting and leaves them to workstation/server cards only and asks even 10x price for those at times.

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I knew it! Enjoy your overpriced Vega VII deep learning crippled Mi50
FP64 has little to do with deep learning or gaming and capping it on these parts is a completely reasonable way to segment the market.

Most deep learning work is standard or half-precision, with the trend going to even lower precision. This is why NVIDIA's Tensor cores don't have native FP64 at all, but have significant FP16, INT8, and INT4 performance.

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FP64 has little to do with deep learning or gaming and capping it on these parts is a completely reasonable way to segment the market.

Most deep learning work is standard or half-precision, with the trend going to even lower precision. This is why NVIDIA's Tensor cores don't have native FP64 at all, but have significant FP16, INT8, and INT4 performance.
There are many deep learning frameworks that require FP64 just because researchers don't use it since they are focused on time constraints doesn't mean FP64 isn't used. It makes sense why they've segmented their market and I expected them to do so.

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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
https://techgage.com/news/radeon-vii...4-performance/

I knew it! Enjoy your overpriced Vega VII deep learning crippled Mi50

The article must have been updated since your post. In now says:

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That means instead of delivering 6.7 TFLOPS of FP64 like the MI50, Radeon VII will be closer to ~862 GFLOPS (it’s 1:16 with single-precision like RX Vega).
The edit is correct, both Polaris and Vega are 1/16.

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The article must have been updated since your post. In now says:


The edit is correct, both Polaris and Vega are 1/16.
Thanks, updated the OP with the change.

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Impending $699 disappointment.

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Impending $699 disappointment.
I still would like to see if the card can undervolt. If the card performs the same as a GTX 1080 Ti using 180w it's still decent. I suspect it being the same as Vega with the default set to the power saving 220w power limit. With the power target set to max it will be 300w.

I suspect a 2Ghz version in the future with a CLC for $500 more just like the Frontier Edition with a $500 price for the CLC.

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I'm disappointed now, if it was even 1/8 I would think about getting one. But now, I don't think I want to spend that much money on something I will probably never attach to a display.

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