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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-25-2019, 09:12 AM - Thread Starter
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[Anandtech] Intel's 10nm Cannon Lake and Core i3-8121U Deep Dive Review


The single processor from Intel built on 10nm falls under the Core 8th generation family, and is called the Core i3-8121U. The cores are built with Intel's Cannon Lake microarchitecture, a variant of the Skylake architecture built on 14nm, and it is manufactured as a dual core with integrated graphics. The part nominally has a standard 'GT2' graphics configuration, but is actually shipped without the graphics enabled - some analysts believe that this is because it doesn't work (see more on the next page). Norminally this is a 2+2 design (two cores, GT2 graphics), however it might also be referred to as a 2+0 design. 

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While officially 'shipping for revenue' by 31 December 2017, the only way we knew to get hold of an Intel 10nm x86 CPU was if you happened to be a Chinese school and work with a specific distributor to buy a specific laptop.We pulled in a few favors from within the industry and managed to source the laptop for review.

This is how some GPU/CPU reviews should start. Just how difficult it can be to buy some parts these days.
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At some point Intel had to make good on its promises to investors by shipping something 10nm to somewhere. Exactly how many chips were sold (and to whom) is not discussed by Intel, but I have heard some numbers flying around. Based on our performance numbers, it’s obvious why Intel didn’t want to promote it. On the other hand, at least being told about it beyond a simple sentence would have been nice.

After testing the chip, the only way I’d recommend one of these things is for the AVX512 performance. It blows everything else in that market out of the water, however AVX512 enabled programs are few and far between. Plus, given what Intel has said about the Sunny Cove core, that part will have it instead. If you really need AVX512 in a small form factor, Intel will sell you a NUC.

Cannon Lake, and the system we have with it inside, is ultimately now nothing more than a curio on the timeline of processor development. Which is where it belongs.
So 10nm won't save Intel fron new Ryzen, only 10+nm maybe will compete with their current 14++nm processes.
In this slide it shows on the right that 10nm (and its variants) have lower power through lower dynamic capacitance. However, on the left, Intel shows both 10nm (Cannon Lake) and 10nm+ (Ice Lake) as having lower transistor performance than 14nm++, the current generation of Coffee Lake processors.

This means we might not see a truly high-performance processor on 10nm until the third generation of the process is put into place. Right now, based on our numbers on Cannon Lake, it’s clear that the first generation of 10nm was not ready for prime time.
I think that Intel needs 10nm for Data-centers for higher core count and profit, and their production focus will be on this area and not consumer desktop PC's.
I don't see 9700K/9900K 10nm competitor until 2020.

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Intel's product stack over the next 12 months is a confusing mess. So presumably, Cannon Lake is now finished and wrapped up? It will exist in only these terrible laptops and offers almost nothing over Coffee Lake.

So from what I understand:

Q1 -14nm++++ Cascade Lake (server)
Q2 - 14nm++++ Whiskey Lake (refresh of Coffee Lake L, desktop and mobile)
1H - 14nm+++++ Cooper Lake (server) *to tackle AMD's 7nm ROME*
Q4 - 10nm+ Ice Lake (mobile)
1H 2020 - 10nm+ ???? Lake (server)
Q3 2020 - 10nm+ Ice Lake (desktop)

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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

This is how some GPU/CPU reviews should start. Just how difficult it can be to buy some parts these days.

true, reviews should also go into details on how they procured the product, specially those sponsored products that needs some "special" situations to occur.

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I've had to get some samples of products in the past require me to make a build just to get the items for review :/

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