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Ice Lake on 10nm is NOT FOR DESKTOP this year. Intel is only releasing IceLake-U in 2019, which is mobile form factor only. Same as last gen 10nm chips. Intel still hasnt gotten 10nm node to where it needs to be for desktop and server processors.
I really wonder how many more times this has to be said before people understand it. The only announced processors are -U family and desktop uses -S family.
Intel is still covering the most important markets first. Server with Cascade Lake which is out in March which is before Epyc and has security patches along with support for Optane persistent memory. Along with their mobile Ice Lake chips which will most likely push form factor along with battery life much further than before.

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Well, like-minded people tend to move to the same circles, nothing surprising here.

Be honest, behind the facade of those things, the real priority is just screwing everyone over in the name of obscene profit & delaying any kind of backlash as long as possible. That's the real world.
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Thats a stupid comment, which brings nothing to discussion.



Why would Intel want to open a fabric in the middle of a warzone, in a potentially unstable state. Plus, it wont be really cheap to open it there and operate it....

My main guess is, so they can sell stuff directly to the Israel government and military and get access to certain stuff (no idea what stuff).
Intel has been doing R&D out of Israel for many years. The Israeli team has been instrumental in a number of Intel's architectures over the years.
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And not build this facility in the US for what reason?

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Why would Intel want to open a fabric in the middle of a warzone, in a potentially unstable state. Plus, it wont be really cheap to open it there and operate it....

My main guess is, so they can sell stuff directly to the Israel government and military and get access to certain stuff (no idea what stuff).
It's like saying that any plant in US is in "unstable state". Have you seen how many mass shootings are going on in the US? Damn that place is a warzone. Have you seen what is going on in france? Talk about unstable. Sheesh.

Also one of their big research facilities that has been making next gen chips, is in israel, so it makes sense to upgrade the fab in there as well. The place though doesn't tape the end chip. They make waffers, which then get shipped out to other facilities. So it has nothing to do with israel government or military applications.

The end fact is that israel government are willing to forgo taxes (despite public dismay) in order to make intel put more money into israel and extend its research facilities there. So business wise and money wise, it is worth to intel to spend money there which could cost more if they do the same elsewhere.

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And not build this facility in the US for what reason?
Cost. Making the facility from scratch or upgrading an existing one in the US could cost way more than 11B$, and also it make it harder for the R&D teams in israel to access production lines.
And before you say "just move the R&D to the US", it will only mean intel will both lose people to their competitors which also have research teams in israel (there is a huge race after those talents), and cost them a hell of a lot even more.



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Quote: Originally Posted by ku4eto View Post
Thats a stupid comment, which brings nothing to discussion.



Why would Intel want to open a fabric in the middle of a warzone, in a potentially unstable state. Plus, it wont be really cheap to open it there and operate it....

Israel is the only stable state in the whole region, and the only place that has the resources, know-how, and brain power to run the infrastructure.

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My main guess is, so they can sell stuff directly to the Israel government and military and get access to certain stuff (no idea what stuff).

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And not build this facility in the US for what reason?
As another has already pointed out, "cost". Intel already has the Oregon plant, which they are planning to upgrade.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ku4eto View Post
Thats a stupid comment, which brings nothing to discussion.



Why would Intel want to open a fabric in the middle of a warzone, in a potentially unstable state. Plus, it wont be really cheap to open it there and operate it....

My main guess is, so they can sell stuff directly to the Israel government and military and get access to certain stuff (no idea what stuff).
This is from Intel's web site:
Intel established a presence in Israel in 1974 in Haifa with five employees. Today the company employs about 10,000 people, in addition to indirectly supporting the employment of 30,000 workers in Israel. About 60% of Intel Israel's employees are engaged in cutting-edge R&D, while half support high-volume manufacturing of microprocessors that power the world's computing devices.

It goes a back as "Intel 8088" Developed in Haifa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8088
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