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Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
This product is clearly aimed at people like me, lol

"Because of the extreme power nature of this processor, Intel is taking the view that it should only be sold by OEMs and SIs that have the where-with-all to deal with how to cool them and how to provide technical support. As a result, users that want this chip will have to invest in a pre-built system."

Sad, because for the price I might actually consider it. It only scores 5871 in Cinebench at 4.4 at which point it goes thermonuclear. A 2990WX at 4.1 can score 6514. Tom's managed 6416 on theirs at 4.6, at almost double the power of a 2990WX lol. And pigeon crap too.

I figured the lack of efficiency would make most people this is aimed at bow out. The 2990WX at 4.1 consumes 50% less power than this monster.

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I figured the lack of efficiency would make most people this is aimed at bow out. The 2990WX at 4.1 consumes 50% less power than this monster.
Where are you getting this nonsense from? A 2990WX at 4.0Ghz uses 500w. Intel chips use less power than AMDs at the same clock speed. A 5Ghz 2990WX uses 1000w+


Edit: Some HWBot submissions, curious if he disabled the Meltdown software(OS) patches before running the benchmarks. https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm

6.5Ghz on all 28 Cores with HT enabled: https://hwbot.org/submission/4056922...3175x_6500_mhz
Cinebench at 5.7Ghz: 8379 https://hwbot.org/submission/4056892..._3175x_8379_cb

Looking at the other 2990WX submissions, ZZOLIO's seems ridiculously high

Cinebench is slower than a 2990WX(8543) @ 5,484Mhz by 164 which has 8 more threads. https://hwbot.org/submission/3922296...2990wx_8543_cb

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It’s the best CPU out there and the hardest CPU to get your hands on. Not sure how I feel about this. Props to Intel for pushing the boundaries of what they can do I suppose.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Hwgeek View Post
2990WX don't need restart any more
True, there are tools that can work around OS scheduler issues on the fly and future OS patches should offer a more integrated improvement.

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this CPU can have mounting problem and you loose memory channels in each try.
This can happen to any CPU that has an IMC and becomes more of an issue with LGA setups and large sockets.

The solution is to install the CPU and mount the cooler correctly.

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ALso this is overclockble Xeon and with OC you get over 70DB with it massive AIO and Delta fans, good luck working next to it for hours every day
Anyone dropping this kind of money on a setup can afford a cooling setup that is considerably more capable and more silent than an AIO.

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Is AVX512 even a good benchmark to test on since the instruction set isn't remotely efficient and has a bunch of hangups?
If you aren't using AVX512, you probably aren't anywhere near the target market for this product.

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It’s the best CPU out there and the hardest CPU to get your hands on. Not sure how I feel about this. Props to Intel for pushing the boundaries of what they can do I suppose.
Yeah rebrand Xeons to desktop parts on a crappy socket just to be able to say they are #1 in something and AMD is not.

Why they keep stacking the PCBs... do they really need so much structural rigidity? Why then choose such a crappy socket that almost no one can mount the CPU and get all memory lanes?
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Why they keep stacking the PCBs... do they really need so much structural rigidity?
They use the same base substrate across multiple different product lines that need to have the same total package height. Some have a second, primary substrate attached to the base, while other (Xeon Phi) do not.

Anyway this actually reduces the package rigidity near the corners, relative to what it would be with a single thicker substrate...but the modularity is probably more economical.

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Why then choose such a crappy socket that almost no one can mount the CPU and get all memory lanes?
It's the only viable socket they've got for these (they don't make parts with more than 18 cores for LGA-2066), most LGA-3647 setups haven't had major issues and they weren't going to make a whole new socket just for a limited run prosumer part.

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Clearly you didn't read his review.

He stated, that because in his eyes, professionals who need such a CPU, might be less sensitive to price, and considering the pros vs cons, and the benefits over the TR, he gave it a 4/5 (not 4.5 from what I can see).
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That's a classic Intel defence; 'when price is not an issue, such and such product is recommended'. I know it's not your opinion btw, but from that reviewer, it's truly moronic. You can try to apply that thinking to anything that is horrendously bad value for money but has as little as one redeeming feature over the competition, even if it's trivial. And who is less sensitive to such a massively poorer value proposition over the competition? Just because people have money doesn't mean they're stupid. In fact, the more money an individual has seems to go hand in hand with becoming even more tight from my experience

Unless of course this review was written for the sheikh in that viral video throwing dollars up in the air. Because money is no issue for such folk. For the 99.9% everyone else, a massively poorer value proposition can't be overlooked because 'Intel'.


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That's a classic Intel defence; 'when price is not an issue, such and such product is recommended'. I know it's not your opinion btw, but from that reviewer, it's truly moronic. You can try to apply that thinking to anything that is horrendously bad value for money but has as little as one redeeming feature over the competition, even if it's trivial. And who is less sensitive to such a massively poorer value proposition over the competition? Just because people have money doesn't mean they're stupid. In fact, the more money an individual has seems to go hand in hand with becoming even more tight from my experience

Unless of course this review was written for the sheikh in that viral video throwing dollars up in the air. Because money is no issue for such folk. For the 99.9% everyone else, a massively poorer value proposition can't be overlooked because 'Intel'.
Why? Because you can't afford it, that makes it moronic? Boohoo. Cry intel a river.

Top of the line, on the edge of current performance, highly OCable, cost more, expensive to make (especially considering only 1500 pieces), and has only a certain purpose in mind for certain people.

Unlike the 2990x which is a general CPU for multiple usage of tasks, and targets the general workspace, this one is very specific, and hence, the high price as it also targets those with the wallets to purchase it over the 2990x, and are willing to pay it.
This is not a CPU for you, and you most likely will never own one, let alone see one for real. So what is your problem? Except jealousy?

And calling those people stupid... Unless you call every titan owner here on OCN as stupid. Some people here have 4 of the last generation. Are they all stupid, or just willing to pay for those cards for the extra performance usage out of them?

Same as those that buy a ferrari or a lamborghini, porsche, etc. They can, and calling them "morons" comes out of jealousy, not because that is what they are. They can afford it, and it makes them happy. You are just grumpy because you can't.

Neither of those is targeting you. If intel was making that CPU to target the general desktop users, at that price, that would be stupid (and that can be applied to some of their desktop products in the i9 category). But they don't. That is not a CPU for you. So you can relax. They don't care about you. Nor your opinion clearly.


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