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post #21 of 34 (permalink) Old 02-01-2019, 01:42 PM
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Why on earth would anyone buy a kit when they can choose individual parts then that fit their needs, desires and hardware, maybe this "kit" fits someones but it seems rather limiting considering how many custom cooling options there are.
While I agree with you, I can also see how doing your first loop can be a bit overwhelming, and that a kit may be less daunting and in some cases provide better value. I'm not saying that is the case for all kits, but there are some good ones out there.

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On that note once you get the larger radiator and compression fitting options, this seems to work out more expensive than the EK L360 kit by a good bit. Are any of the main components (CPU block, radiator, pump) that much better?
The pump and res are certainly a huge step up on the Swiftech. The Swiftech fittings are noticeably better quality, also. I would imagine that the EK PE rad is definitely going to have an advantage (we have no info on the Swiftech, but the PE is very good rad and thicker than the Swiftech), and we know the EK block has a small performance advantage. And if these fans are the same that they are using on the X3 AiO, they are pretty underwhelming in performance, but have nice lighting if you happen to care about that.

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Quote: Originally Posted by bfromcolo View Post
I have a similar kit, EK L360. It does a great job with my 5820k and 1070, and it has worked well for a couple years now. It's pretty mind boggling initially to figure what all matches what to do a loop for the first time, these kits make it pretty simple. I also got a EK water block for my 1070. Now that I have built a couple loops I wouldn't have any issues getting all the right parts. I also think in the EK case it works out cheaper to get it all together, than separately.


On that note once you get the larger radiator and compression fitting options, this seems to work out more expensive than the EK L360 kit by a good bit. Are any of the main components (CPU block, radiator, pump) that much better?
RGB sells things these days and your L360 kit didn't have a D5 pump (AFAIK only X series has it as well as EK's new RGB kit), it likely had a DDC MX 3.1.


The CPU block is probably on par, the radiator is slimmer than a 38mm PE360, pump is stronger due to being a D5.


The launch day pricing on this swiftech kit is only extremely compelling for the RGB fanatics as everything is RGB short of the radiator & fittings (block, fans, pump), it's about half the price of the EK RGB kit. It's fairly priced though.

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DIY Kit means buy parts and do it yourself not a closed loop, These kind of DIY kits are becoming more and more popular example look here: http://www.performance-pcs.com/complete-kits
These style of kits are for those who want a loop but not 100% sure what to buy or for newbies like me who want something already package for there first time trying to do watercooling, a lot of people do not know what they are looking for at first even with help from websites and talking to people so it makes it easier to just buy a kit like these, which if you get the right one you could always expand in the future.
Sure. But then shops can already offer you kits like this of their own where they make a kit/bundle of parts that you need. It simply won't be a kit/bundle sold by Swiftech, EK etc. but can have their parts and be put together by a shop.
Same as those CPU+mobo+RAM+GPU kits or what ever combination for people who do not know what to choose "first time" or want a "better total price", these "kits"/bundles can be made by shops or AMD/Intel+partners.

I think that people building their first loop and not wanting to research their parts would rather go with prefilled parts, mount - connect - done. With these EK/Switches unfilled bundles/kits all you're saving is time spent researching what parts there are and what parts you want.

Seems weird to me to buy these bundles unless they offer better price than buying the parts separately. And that's considering the bundle actually fits your needs on all fronts, has the right CPU block, right GPU block and so on.
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I think that people building their first loop and not wanting to research their parts would rather go with prefilled parts, mount - connect - done. With these EK/Switches unfilled bundles/kits all you're saving is time spent researching what parts there are and what parts you want.
If you are using prefilled CLCs, AIOs, etc, you are not building a loop, you are installing a part. These Swiftech kits are full loops and expandable. My Swiftech kit has been running for over 5 years now. Zero gunk in the blocks or tubes, all I do is dust it and top it off occasionally.

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RGB sells things these days and your L360 kit didn't have a D5 pump (AFAIK only X series has it as well as EK's new RGB kit), it likely had a DDC MX 3.1.


The CPU block is probably on par, the radiator is slimmer than a 38mm PE360, pump is stronger due to being a D5.


The launch day pricing on this swiftech kit is only extremely compelling for the RGB fanatics as everything is RGB short of the radiator & fittings (block, fans, pump), it's about half the price of the EK RGB kit. It's fairly priced though.

Regular P360 kit has a D5 as well, if I recall correctly. The DDC pump on the L360 is fine, though, if you're not trying to do anything stupid. I had a solid place to mount it and it gets plenty of cooling, so it really hasn't caused me any issue. I had to redo my loop anyway, so I picked up an L360 kit on offer at my local Microcenter and saved a bundle. It came with a PE360 so I just added a 280 and a block for the 1080 Ti and it does great with the 2700x. I'd buy differently for going nuts with Skylake-X and a pair of GPU's, but for stable everyday OC's in single-GPU systems, it's a nice little kit at the right price.

Playing with the Boreas build, I can get it close to the L360's EK website MSRP after adding the 360 rad and 100mm res options though I prefer the tubing in the EK kit. Not a bad price - for reference, at least in the US, the L360 goes for ~$300-330 on Amazon and often less at Microcenter.

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What I wanted was a 420mm for my i9 7980xe and a pair of 360s in front for the Vega Fe card. But it looks like. It'll cost an astronomical amount once you add I the $400+ in fans. Not inc rads pumps res/block

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What I wanted was a 420mm for my i9 7980xe and a pair of 360s in front for the Vega Fe card. But it looks like. It'll cost an astronomical amount once you add I the $400+ in fans. Not inc rads pumps res/block

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Watercooling isn't cheap especially when you want to go overkill like that. No quality kit will help that.

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What surprised me most is cost of fans I Remeber buying 15 noctuas for my x79 4960 build for $150 now 10 corsair 120mm ML fans will be nearly $400. This hobby has seriously inflated

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What surprised me most is cost of fans I Remeber buying 15 noctuas for my x79 4960 build for $150 now 10 corsair 120mm ML fans will be nearly $400. This hobby has seriously inflated

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Not to go too far offtopic...

There are still quality fan options for those trying to save that don't care about RGB. The new arctic P line is a good example of a fan punching well above its asking price https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...on-thread.html Also, the ML's aren't really recommended.

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Thought they were best for rads but there $40+ was a hard sell as Id wanted go water cooling in my corsair 1000D but that'll be next project prob end up costing a minium $3000+ for what I want.

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