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post #21 of 72 (permalink) Old 01-31-2019, 07:40 PM
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Well, can't really say anything until Intel actually releases their first discrete GPU solution and see where they stand compared to comparable AMD/Nvidia GPU.

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Well, can't really say anything until Intel actually releases their first discrete GPU solution and see where they stand compared to comparable AMD/Nvidia GPU.
If the Radeon 7 articles are any indicator, unless it matches the highest-end consumer GPU at a significantly lower price, whatever Intel makes will be a failure

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intel was shunned on raytracing by nvidia and amd

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...aming-graphics


everyone talks about drivers and software they can do that pretty sure of course their will be humps
but their software is on majority of all systems, IME
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Technically they have had graphics for a LONG time. Currently with iGPUs and previously with graphics in the chipset before we did away with the northbridge. Most attempts at graphics have been successful for In tel, it was just the big Larabee thing that they got all wrong. Right now their iGPUs may lack power compared to any discreet graphics, but so do all iGPUs. They do have some very nice tech with things like QuickSync that has people using their graphics quite a bit. This is just finally taking the plunge into a serious graphics chip. The reason behind it is that datacenter marketshare is being ruled by graphics companies, mostly Nvidia. Intel wants to muscle in on that so they can sell both the CPUs, and GPUs to the customers for double profit taking. As long as they follow the same general principles as their iGPUs they will be fine, they just cant try to reinvent the wheel here like they did with Larabee. And with Raja leading the charge we know they will come out with something decent.
Raja's job so far has been to fuse AMD and Intel technology together to create better APU's than Intel have been able to create so far, which isn't strange. I don't believe he was 'poached' by Intel at all and just switched to help Intel with this integration.

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If the Radeon 7 articles are any indicator, unless it matches the highest-end consumer GPU at a significantly lower price, whatever Intel makes will be a failure
ehh... Polaris begs to differ.
despite being a lackluster chip, it was well capable of selling at a good volume.
even to the extent that AMD refuses to let it go and simply rebadge it three times in a row, instead of replacing it with a smaller Vega die.

we had Baffin (Polaris 11) and Ellesmere (Polaris 10), Polaris 20, and now Polaris 30...

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Raja's job so far has been to fuse AMD and Intel technology together to create better APU's than Intel have been able to create so far, which isn't strange. I don't believe he was 'poached' by Intel at all and just switched to help Intel with this integration.
Nope he just wants to create the best desktop GPU ever. I would also leave AMD if 2/3 of my team were removed from finishing a current project. Cough Vega

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Raja's job so far has been to fuse AMD and Intel technology together to create better APU's than Intel have been able to create so far, which isn't strange. I don't believe he was 'poached' by Intel at all and just switched to help Intel with this integration.
cpu and gpu chips together shouldnt be hard for anyone of them to do
I think he was involved but once seeing what intel had going on made him seeing blue along with not being cash strapped
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ehh... Polaris begs to differ.
despite being a lackluster chip, it was well capable of selling at a good volume.
even to the extent that AMD refuses to let it go and simply rebadge it three times in a row, instead of replacing it with a smaller Vega die.

we had Baffin (Polaris 11) and Ellesmere (Polaris 10), Polaris 20, and now Polaris 30...
Received as failure, not an actual technical or performance failure

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but that doesn't explain why Intel's 107K people couldn't keep AMD's <20K people's effort from eating into their sales.
and to top it off, AMD didn't even have as much funds as Intel does.
Because that is a stupid question.

Its like asking why 100,000 plumbers can't make a space shuttle. One of them must be an expert in rocket science and one is space exploration and one in physics to make it work. Right?

Wrong.

To make a GPU requires specific talents and knowledge, something intel lacks. Yes, they have iGPU, which isn't that good, and a lot of it was developed though their partnership with either nvidia or AMD.

To get the real talent they need, they will have to seriously outbid nvidia or AMD, which I'm sure both pay a seriously handsome money just to keep.

And nvidia and AMD have something also that intel doesn't, which is people who are in GPU software and hardware industry for centuries. They have deeper understanding than a guy who design CPUs, understand, and would take him years to learn. They both also capture people out of unis in order to grow them into the industry, and make sure they pay them very well to keep them there as well.

This is not about 100,000, but at most a few hundreds which most of the R&D goes to in terms of salaries, who really make things come true for the two companies.


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