[AnandTech] The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Review - Page 5 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

Forum Jump: 

[AnandTech] The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Review

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #41 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 11:05 AM
Gamer
 
paulerxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New Joisey
Posts: 3,294
Rep: 67 (Unique: 57)
Quote: Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
I just find a launch like this underwhelming considering everything.

GTX1070 came out mid-2016 with $380 MSRP. Now almost 3 years later we have similar performance with less memory for $100 less. It just does not seem impressive. I would not upgrade to this unless I have something lower than RX 570, so really anything like GTX 960/RX 560/R9 285 but at the same time those where much cheaper GPUs. Its one thing to refresh/rebrand/lower prices but releases a new architecture at this power/price level is sad. Almost seems like Nvidia wants to saturate the market with 10s of models.
I bought a GTX1060 at launch for $240, how do you think I feel waiting for a card in the $250-300 bracket worth upgrading too? Nvidia's marketing team needs to put people like me in their mind while making these cards. For me, it makes no sense at all upgrading to any of Nvidia's cards. This new card is hardly better than my old GTX1060.... 2.5 years later....And it's more expensive then what my card originally was.

swah

paulerxx is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #42 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 11:30 AM
H₂O Aficionado
 
Slaughtahouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,568
Rep: 117 (Unique: 94)
Quote: Originally Posted by paulerxx View Post
I bought a GTX1060 at launch for $240, how do you think I feel waiting for a card in the $250-300 bracket worth upgrading too? Nvidia's marketing team needs to put people like me in their mind while making these cards. For me, it makes no sense at all upgrading to any of Nvidia's cards. This new card is hardly better than my old GTX1060.... 2.5 years later....And it's more expensive then what my card originally was.
You think that's bad? I've had a GTX 780 since 2013. I just sold it a couple of days ago. I can go out and buy a GTX 1060 which is only slightly better then what I just had... and it will cost me at least $100 after the sale. But it's not enough for 1440p to 4k for an investment.

I'm still trying to buy a GTX 1080. A card that launched over two years ago but the current retail prices are over inflated. Which has an effect on the used market, at least in Canada.

Doesn't help when Nvidia keeps raising the overall prices of their next generation counterpart.

-=]░▒▓███ [Official] NVIDIA GTX 780 Owner's Club ███▓▒░[=-

Stridsfordon 90
(20 items)
M1 Abrams
(18 items)
Asus G53
(0 items)
CPU
Intel 3930K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth X79
GPU
GTX 780 SC
RAM
Patriot Black Viper
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 SSD
Hard Drive
WD Black 7200 RPM
Power Supply
Corsair AX 850
Cooling
XSPC EX 360 Radiator
Cooling
XSPC Raystorm CPU Block
Cooling
XSPC Titan/780 GPU Block
Cooling
EK-XRES 100 Revo D5 - Acetal
Cooling
XSPC D5 Pump
Case
Fractal Design Meshify C
Operating System
Windows 10
Monitor
QNIX 27"
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Razer Death Adder 2013
Mousepad
Mouse Rug
Audio
Sennheiser HD 6XX
Audio
Bose Companion III's
CPU
i7 3930K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth X79
GPU
Geforce GTX 780 EVGA SC 3GB + XSPC Waterblock
RAM
Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 840 Series 250GB
Power Supply
Corsair AX850
Cooling
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II Night Hawk Edition
Cooling
XSPC 360mm radiator, Raystorm CPU block, D5 pump
Case
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green (Custom paint)
Operating System
Windows 10
Monitor
QNIX QX2710 27" 100hz
Monitor
Samsung 2233RZ 22" 120hz
Keyboard
Logitech g710+
Mouse
Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
Mouse
Mouse Rug
Audio
Bose Companion III's Speakers
Audio
Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones
Audio
Sennheiser HD 6XX Headphones
▲ hide details ▲
Slaughtahouse is offline  
post #43 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 12:28 PM
⤷ αC
 
AlphaC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 10,705
Rep: 872 (Unique: 575)
While I think the > $310 GTX 1660 Ti cards are kind of crazy, it's wrong to say that it isn't a performance improvement over the GTX 1060 6GB.

1. Turing can do float + int operation at the same time, we see large gains from that in some titles
2. GDDR6 = more memory bandwidth than GTX 1070 even out of the box
3. performance is at least 20% in any title due to the CUDA core increase , before any Turing improvements
4. any FP16 operations are much faster due to FP16 cores, this will show in any title using it
5. The power consumption is inline with GTX 1060 6GB despite these performance gains, TPU has this as the highest performance per watt

It's a win in performance, it's a win in efficiency. What isn't there is the launch pricing for the cheaper no-frills base models. The non-EVGA partner cards are marked up unless you want a dingy ASUS phoenix (hilariously bad) , MSI Ventus (single heatpipe and plastic backplate, way to go there ... also unlike prior generations it's loud per TechPowerUp) , Gigabyte OC (this isn't helping them with 1 heatpipe , selling point seems to be 3x DisplayPorts) , Zotac (horrible power delivery components with a tacked on better heatsink to compensate for that) , Inno3d (not stellar heatsink), Palit StormX (the 2 slot single fan cooler is likely undersized even though it has 3 heatpipes) , Gainward (should be mediocre), Colorful (it's a triple fan massive card for a 120W TDP GPU), PNY (it's a horrible place to buy it but the card itself is mediocre at best). It's almost as if the base models are up-sells for the more expensive ones that are close to RTX 2060 FE pricing.

https://techreport.com/news/34484/al...i-cards-so-far

For $40 you can get yourself an Arctic Accelero Twin Turbo which will embarrass all these aftermarket coolers so there really shouldn't be any card more than $310. At $330 for the STRIX or Aorus, you can just save yourself $20 more and get a RTX 2060 Founder's Edition which will have similar 6 phase power delivery but outright better performance (and VR-Link) due to 25% more CUDA cores even when lowering power limit. The value proposition isn't there when a base model XC Black can hit 2041MHz in TPU's review which matches the MSI Gaming X within margin of a few MHz. Given a 6mm heatpipe is capable of dissipating 40W given a supporting fin stack and 8mm is capable of 60W or so , I would think that there should be at least 2-3 heatpipes with a fin stack to match it to fully heatspread and dissipate the 120W TDP.

If EVGA can fix their fan curve and add zero dB mode their single fan XC Black is a solid choice. An optional backplate would have been nice but the RTX 2060 doesn't have one either ; power limit could be unlocked a bit but competing cards are only limited to 120W-130W anyway.


edit: GTX 1660 Ti Tech briefing https://www.techarp.com/computer/nvi...e-gtx-1660-ti/
* no DLSS (due to lack of tensor cores) , and obviously no RTX
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	concurrent float + int.PNG
Views:	16
Size:	426.6 KB
ID:	255030  


► Recommended GPU Projects: [email protected] , [email protected] (FP64) (AMD moreso) ► Other notable GPU projects: [email protected] (Nvidia), GPUGrid (Nvidia) ► Project list



Last edited by AlphaC; 02-22-2019 at 02:35 PM.
AlphaC is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #44 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 12:34 PM
PC Evangelist
 
ZealotKi11er's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, CA
Posts: 45,623
Rep: 1793 (Unique: 1172)
Quote: Originally Posted by paulerxx View Post
I bought a GTX1060 at launch for $240, how do you think I feel waiting for a card in the $250-300 bracket worth upgrading too? Nvidia's marketing team needs to put people like me in their mind while making these cards. For me, it makes no sense at all upgrading to any of Nvidia's cards. This new card is hardly better than my old GTX1060.... 2.5 years later....And it's more expensive then what my card originally was.
You have to wait for 3070 or probably 2660 Ti. Prices have gone up, no stopping that. This card would have been fine price/per if released last year.

Yamato
(10 items)
Ishimura
(13 items)
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.6GHz
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 Deluxe
GPU
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid
RAM
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4-3000 CL15
Hard Drive
Samsung SM961 512GB
Hard Drive
HGST DeskStar NAS 6TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 P2
Cooling
Cooler Master Nepton 280L
Case
Fractal Design Meshify C TG
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.8GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77E-ITX
GPU
AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition
RAM
AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10
Hard Drive
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3
Cooling
Corsair H100i GTX
Case
Fractal Design Define Nano S
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
Monitor
LG OLED55C7P
Keyboard
Cooler Master MasterKeys MK750
Mouse
Finalmouse Air58 Ninja
▲ hide details ▲


ZealotKi11er is offline  
post #45 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 01:07 PM
Waiting for 7nm EUV
 
tpi2007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,220
Rep: 890 (Unique: 501)

Is your CPU bottlenecking your GPU ? Find out: CPU and GPU usage along with FPS in-game
Read my reviews here.
Clubs (founder): The rare / unusual CPU club
Clubs (member): Corsair Professional HX / AX Series PSU Owners Club || The Official Cooler Master HAF X/932/922/912(+) Club
CPU
Core i7-3820
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth X79
GPU
MSI GTX 1060 6 GB Gaming X
RAM
16 GB Corsair DDR3 1866 Mhz Dominator
Hard Drive
Samsung SSD 830 128GB + WD Caviar Black 2TB
Optical Drive
Sony Optiarc DVD-RW
Power Supply
Corsair AX750 Professional Modular 80 Plus Gold
Cooling
Corsair A70 + Noiseblocker M12-P
Case
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Monitor
BenQ RL2455HM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Octane
Mouse
Cooler Master Octane
▲ hide details ▲


tpi2007 is online now  
post #46 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 01:23 PM
Performance is the bible
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,705
Rep: 436 (Unique: 300)
Quote: Originally Posted by Slaughtahouse View Post
I've had a GTX 780 since 2013. I just sold it a couple of days ago. I can go out and buy a GTX 1060 which is only slightly better then what I just had
The 1060 6GB is 30% faster than the 780. And it was released for 250$ vs the 650$ of the 780 at launch.

And considering that in 2013 4K gaming was only a dream, and the 1060 wasn't released as a 4K game card, I feel like either you should have done your research before making your expectations, or you really have no idea about the cards you bought.
30% performance boost for 38% of the time, is definitely an improvement.

The 1660 TI is a 65% improvement over the 780 and less than half its price.


Defoler is offline  
post #47 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 01:37 PM
PC Evangelist
 
ZealotKi11er's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, CA
Posts: 45,623
Rep: 1793 (Unique: 1172)
Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
The 1060 6GB is 30% faster than the 780. And it was released for 250$ vs the 650$ of the 780 at launch.

And considering that in 2013 4K gaming was only a dream, and the 1060 wasn't released as a 4K game card, I feel like either you should have done your research before making your expectations, or you really have no idea about the cards you bought.
30% performance boost for 38% of the time, is definitely an improvement.

The 1660 TI is a 65% improvement over the 780 and less than half its price.
30% is actually pretty bad considering everything. You will not be able to notice in most games especially if his 780 was OCed. I upgrade from 290X to GTX1080 and was not happy with the perf, Had to go to 1080 Ti.

Yamato
(10 items)
Ishimura
(13 items)
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.6GHz
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 Deluxe
GPU
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid
RAM
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4-3000 CL15
Hard Drive
Samsung SM961 512GB
Hard Drive
HGST DeskStar NAS 6TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 P2
Cooling
Cooler Master Nepton 280L
Case
Fractal Design Meshify C TG
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.8GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77E-ITX
GPU
AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition
RAM
AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10
Hard Drive
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3
Cooling
Corsair H100i GTX
Case
Fractal Design Define Nano S
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
Monitor
LG OLED55C7P
Keyboard
Cooler Master MasterKeys MK750
Mouse
Finalmouse Air58 Ninja
▲ hide details ▲


ZealotKi11er is offline  
post #48 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 01:37 PM
Not a linux lobbyist
 
rluker5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,642
Rep: 43 (Unique: 34)
Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
The 1060 6GB is 30% faster than the 780. And it was released for 250$ vs the 650$ of the 780 at launch.

And considering that in 2013 4K gaming was only a dream, and the 1060 wasn't released as a 4K game card, I feel like either you should have done your research before making your expectations, or you really have no idea about the cards you bought.
30% performance boost for 38% of the time, is definitely an improvement.

The 1660 TI is a 65% improvement over the 780 and less than half its price.
780ti sli could 4k back then. It can do pretty well with MetroLL, W3, most games into 2016. So not a dream, same setting compromises you have to make today. Just games look better nowadays. Took me until 2014 to get a 4k tv with DP1.2 though. But there must have been some monitor.

L5
(18 items)
Lea2
(11 items)
L7
(11 items)
CPU
5950hq
Motherboard
z97 Classified
GPU
Aorus 1080ti Waterforce
RAM
16 G Gskill Trident @ 2400,cas10,1.575v
RAM
16 G Team Extreme @ 2400,cas10,1.575v
Hard Drive
2xSamsung 840 EVO 250G
Hard Drive
seagate barracuda 3T
Hard Drive
Optane 900p 480G OS
Optical Drive
Asus BW-16D1HT
Power Supply
EVGA Supernova 1300 G2
Cooling
Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 120 (cpu)
Cooling
2 140mm case fans, 2 120mm
Case
Fractal Design R4 (no window)
Operating System
W10 64 pro
Monitor
panasonic TC-58AX800U
Audio
Focal Elear
Audio
SoundbasterX AE-5
Other
Megatron
CPU
4770k
Motherboard
Asus Z87 Deluxe
GPU
Fury Nitro
RAM
8Gb patriot 1600mhz
Hard Drive
ROG Raidr 240Gb pcie
Hard Drive
1Tb WD blue
Power Supply
Pc Power&Cooling silencer Mk2 950w
Cooling
Deepcool Lucifer V2
Case
DIYPC P48-W
Operating System
W10 64 pro
Monitor
40"tv
CPU
4980hq
Motherboard
Asus H81T/CSM
RAM
16GB 1600 generic
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 evo 120gb
Power Supply
Skyvast 90w brick for hp pavilion something
Cooling
SilverStone Tek Super Slim
Case
SilverStone Tek PT13B
Operating System
W10 64 pro
Monitor
50" samsung plasma 720p
Keyboard
Logitech K400+
Other
Intel wifi ac card and noname antennas
▲ hide details ▲
rluker5 is offline  
post #49 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 01:39 PM
H₂O Aficionado
 
Slaughtahouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,568
Rep: 117 (Unique: 94)
Quote: Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
Thank you sharing!

+ rep (woop rep is back)

-=]░▒▓███ [Official] NVIDIA GTX 780 Owner's Club ███▓▒░[=-

Stridsfordon 90
(20 items)
M1 Abrams
(18 items)
Asus G53
(0 items)
CPU
Intel 3930K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth X79
GPU
GTX 780 SC
RAM
Patriot Black Viper
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 SSD
Hard Drive
WD Black 7200 RPM
Power Supply
Corsair AX 850
Cooling
XSPC EX 360 Radiator
Cooling
XSPC Raystorm CPU Block
Cooling
XSPC Titan/780 GPU Block
Cooling
EK-XRES 100 Revo D5 - Acetal
Cooling
XSPC D5 Pump
Case
Fractal Design Meshify C
Operating System
Windows 10
Monitor
QNIX 27"
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Razer Death Adder 2013
Mousepad
Mouse Rug
Audio
Sennheiser HD 6XX
Audio
Bose Companion III's
CPU
i7 3930K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth X79
GPU
Geforce GTX 780 EVGA SC 3GB + XSPC Waterblock
RAM
Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 840 Series 250GB
Power Supply
Corsair AX850
Cooling
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II Night Hawk Edition
Cooling
XSPC 360mm radiator, Raystorm CPU block, D5 pump
Case
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green (Custom paint)
Operating System
Windows 10
Monitor
QNIX QX2710 27" 100hz
Monitor
Samsung 2233RZ 22" 120hz
Keyboard
Logitech g710+
Mouse
Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
Mouse
Mouse Rug
Audio
Bose Companion III's Speakers
Audio
Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones
Audio
Sennheiser HD 6XX Headphones
▲ hide details ▲
Slaughtahouse is offline  
post #50 of 199 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 01:54 PM
H₂O Aficionado
 
Slaughtahouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,568
Rep: 117 (Unique: 94)
Quote: Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
The 1060 6GB is 30% faster than the 780. And it was released for 250$ vs the 650$ of the 780 at launch.

And considering that in 2013 4K gaming was only a dream, and the 1060 wasn't released as a 4K game card, I feel like either you should have done your research before making your expectations, or you really have no idea about the cards you bought.
30% performance boost for 38% of the time, is definitely an improvement.

The 1660 TI is a 65% improvement over the 780 and less than half its price.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1418...r-years-later/

Please read.

As well, I'm unsure what research you're talking about. I never implied in 2013 I was going to play 4K. I bought that card for 1440p and I still use 1440p. I just happen to have a 4K TV now because... it's just about become standard.

The GTX 780 was and still is a great card because of its raw performance. The CUDA cores and bandwidth put it ahead of the GTX 1050ti and realtively close to the 1060 at higher resolutions. The GTX 780 also on par or outperforms the 1060 in CUDA based tasks like V-RAY rendering, which was another use that the card was utilized for. (Workstation / Gaming Rig)

Yes, cards have improved. There is no denying, but the cost has also gone up per entry. It makes it difficult to justify new purchases on old hardware. Quite frankly, I don't want to invest in a 6GB card for 1440p - 4K. I think that is a poor decision for any user looking for a long term solution.

At this point, I rather just have the GTX 1080 as it uses a single 8 pin, has a lot of great new features... and it keeps up with everything. I'm just trying to hunt a deal. Ideally, around $400 CAD / $300 USD. The prices are slowly getting there...

-=]░▒▓███ [Official] NVIDIA GTX 780 Owner's Club ███▓▒░[=-

Stridsfordon 90
(20 items)
M1 Abrams
(18 items)
Asus G53
(0 items)
CPU
Intel 3930K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth X79
GPU
GTX 780 SC
RAM
Patriot Black Viper
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 SSD
Hard Drive
WD Black 7200 RPM
Power Supply
Corsair AX 850
Cooling
XSPC EX 360 Radiator
Cooling
XSPC Raystorm CPU Block
Cooling
XSPC Titan/780 GPU Block
Cooling
EK-XRES 100 Revo D5 - Acetal
Cooling
XSPC D5 Pump
Case
Fractal Design Meshify C
Operating System
Windows 10
Monitor
QNIX 27"
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Razer Death Adder 2013
Mousepad
Mouse Rug
Audio
Sennheiser HD 6XX
Audio
Bose Companion III's
CPU
i7 3930K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth X79
GPU
Geforce GTX 780 EVGA SC 3GB + XSPC Waterblock
RAM
Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133
Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 840 Series 250GB
Power Supply
Corsair AX850
Cooling
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II Night Hawk Edition
Cooling
XSPC 360mm radiator, Raystorm CPU block, D5 pump
Case
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green (Custom paint)
Operating System
Windows 10
Monitor
QNIX QX2710 27" 100hz
Monitor
Samsung 2233RZ 22" 120hz
Keyboard
Logitech g710+
Mouse
Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
Mouse
Mouse Rug
Audio
Bose Companion III's Speakers
Audio
Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones
Audio
Sennheiser HD 6XX Headphones
▲ hide details ▲
Slaughtahouse is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off