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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 03-14-2019, 11:53 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
wanna play quick and dirty napkin math?

970 is 86% of 1060 - 1060 is 83% of 1660.

83% of 86% is 71.38% 970 vs 1660 so 28.62/71.38 = 40% upgrade.

i passed on getting a 1080 for 40%, still have my 980ti . . but for a $200 card . . . if having a 970; it would little more attractive to me.

btw, using 1080p. 1440 is about the same and 4k is out of the question, right?
don't forget the fact that switching over to the 1660 completely solves the botched up VRAM issue of 970.

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don't forget the fact that switching over to the 1660 completely solves the botched up VRAM issue of 970.
the 3.5/.5 segmentation is not an issue at 1080p and most 1440p gaming so its completely irrelevant.

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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
the 3.5/.5 segmentation is not an issue at 1080p and most 1440p gaming so its completely irrelevant.
that would depend on the game really.

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Quote: Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post
that would depend on the game really.
not nearly as much as people think.

the lack of (hardware) async would make a bigger difference in many more games.

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Any idea why the rtx2080 has a maximum allowed GPU temperature of 88°C where the 1660Ti has 95°C?

I'm just wondering if its really safe to adjust the temptarget from 60°C to lets say ~75°C?

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What trouble? There will always be a high-end model from the tier below with all the bells and whistles that costs almost the same as the next card, in the entry level, crappier cooler configuration. You can also buy an entry level 1660 model and solve that problem. Unless your local store has a nonsensical pricing structure, but that is another matter.
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what I am trying to say is there is no point buying expensive OC edition to OC when the next up is soo close. One is better off buying the entry level 1660Ti. It is fine if one is buying for better cooling and components but buying just to OC to squeeze more performance is pointless.

The pricing of 1660Ti vs 1660 is very close each other this time.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post
what I am trying to say is there is no point buying expensive OC edition to OC when the next up is soo close. One is better off buying the entry level 1660Ti.
What others are saying is that there is no point in buying the more expensive 1660 Ti when the lower cost 1660 is a better value and can be overclocked for free to greater performance levels.

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The pricing of 1660Ti vs 1660 is very close each other this time.
As is the performance.


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Meh.....Well I guess I'll be waiting even longer. Not really a fan of 5% increases and launch prices that require rebates.

On a side note...is there a financial reason for a 192 bus over a 256 one? I feel both companies purposely gimp their cards in one way or another.
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Meh.....Well I guess I'll be waiting even longer. Not really a fan of 5% increases and launch prices that require rebates.

On a side note...is there a financial reason for a 192 bus over a 256 one? I feel both companies purposely gimp their cards in one way or another.

Of course, a wider memory bus requires a more complex memory controller on the GPU die, meaning a bigger die, more power consumption, and then a more complex PCB with more traces, and more memory chips and overall more power consumption. Remember that these also go into laptops, where every watt counts. Nvidia has better delta colour compression compared to AMD, hence why the 1060 and now the 1660 are able to match or beat AMD's Polaris cards that have a 256-bit bus. It's been that way for a while now. For this performance level 9 Gbps GDDR5 would have been ideal, but that is a low volume sku most probably, but you can always overclock the VRAM. At this price this is the best card out there and probably the only one in the whole line-up thus far that I would give a recommendation as a stop-gap before 7nm cards, but yeah, in general this 12nm generation is not ideal because of both lack of competition and the simple fact that 12nm doesn't allow for any miracles in terms of die size reduction and power gains, it's just a polished version of 16/14nm at the end of the day.

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Quote: Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
Of course, a wider memory bus requires a more complex memory controller on the GPU die, meaning a bigger die, more power consumption, and then a more complex PCB with more traces, and more memory chips and overall more power consumption. Remember that these also go into laptops, where every watt counts. Nvidia has better delta colour compression compared to AMD, hence why the 1060 and now the 1660 are able to match or beat AMD's Polaris cards that have a 256-bit bus. It's been that way for a while now. For this performance level 9 Gbps GDDR5 would have been ideal, but that is a low volume sku most probably, but you can always overclock the VRAM. At this price this is the best card out there and probably the only one in the whole line-up thus far that I would give a recommendation as a stop-gap before 7nm cards, but yeah, in general this 12nm generation is not ideal because of both lack of competition and the simple fact that 12nm doesn't allow for any miracles in terms of die size reduction and power gains, it's just a polished version of 16/14nm at the end of the day.
With the colour compression.....is that the reason Nvidia cards have a washed out effect? Both my 1050ti and my old 1060 had/have it.
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