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post #21 of 67 (permalink) Old 03-18-2019, 01:55 PM
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huzzug just give up.
You cannot argue with Defoler, even when everyone can see the Intel fanboy is once again attacking AMD over nothing that can be proven.
It is a guaranteed that any time theres an Intel and/or AMD thread, Defoler is there defending team Blue and bashing team Red, regardless of context or fact.
Think whatever you want.
But being AMD fanboy will not keep you safe, no matter what AMD tells you. Facebook used to say your data is safe. Look what happened.
You claim that I defend "team blue", which is funny, considering you are so adamant about defending "team red".
Kinda hypocrite to bash me claiming I'm a fanboy, but doing exactly the same thing.

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So this is all PR- no researchers publish a report, the problem doesn't exist. lmao.

If you are slamming AMD for this, YOU have a problem. Especially if you have not publicaly demanded a statement from Intel regarding the "safety" of their processors which have been PROVEN to be vulnerable, with no "patch" possible. Have you?
OK, were is AMD's research? Where is their data about it?
What do I need a public statement from intel? We so far seen proof that intel are not safe. The researches tested most of their recent products. At no point did I call intel safe. Are you blind or just illiterate?
They only tested one AMD architecture, a dead one. Nothing from the last decade. If that is proof for you, I'm sorry but we are in such a hole that you don't even request proof and accept by saying from a company. If that is your standard, you are poor standards at best.



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post #22 of 67 (permalink) Old 03-18-2019, 03:14 PM
 
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This is a pretty amusing thread. I respect the effort given but not even absolute certainty can change a true believers mind, may as well be debating with the people that think the earth is flat.
Yeah, I wonder if a few staunch Intel/Nvidia defenders here are really "true believers" or just angry shareholders trying to justify keeping their stock, hoping for it to skyrocket.

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Yeah, I wonder if a few staunch Intel/Nvidia defenders here are really "true believers" or just angry shareholders trying to justify keeping their stock, hoping for it to skyrocket.
Honestly, Intel stock won't be skyrocketing anytime soon, it seems.

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i would imagine that if they were someone at intel, or even nvidia wouldve proven it by now. i cant imagine a world where a competitor isnt doing some sort of side by side against their oposition.

i forget which exploit that affects both systems, but it didnt take very long for it to be an AMD vulnerability as well if not same test environment/day.

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OK, were is AMD's research? Where is their data about it?
What do I need a public statement from intel? We so far seen proof that intel are not safe. The researches tested most of their recent products. At no point did I call intel safe. Are you blind or just illiterate?
They only tested one AMD architecture, a dead one. Nothing from the last decade. If that is proof for you, I'm sorry but we are in such a hole that you don't even request proof and accept by saying from a company. If that is your standard, you are poor standards at best.
The answer is fairly obvious. The exploit relies on behaviour that AMD's processors don't exhibit. How do you suggest they recreate the problem?

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The answer is fairly obvious. The exploit relies on behaviour that AMD's processors don't exhibit. How do you suggest they recreate the problem?
Dude, by having an inferior architecture just like Intel. Or they allocate resources to find something they know they wouldn't find instead of working on current & future products. That's what stupid people who think they're smart would do.

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This is a pretty amusing thread. I respect the effort given but not even absolute certainty can change a true believers mind, may as well be debating with the people that think the earth is flat.
This thread would be much better off if certain individuals could just knock it off or take it to PM instead.

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Honestly, Intel stock won't be skyrocketing anytime soon, it seems.
Does it ever skyrocket? I doubt it will see any loss, hate it or love it, Intel is still market king. We are a very very small market segment, and Intel Rules the business world, as well as the mass market. That's not going to change, because most people dont upgrade that much, and a few issues beyond their control, doesn't make the equivalency of how many years of self inflicted failure? No business is going to replace their 100,000s of PCs, over a short term exploit, and most end users will never even know about this.

This still hasn't changed, and wont, maybe ever. Its dips a little, and always goes back up.
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Not going to hate on AMD for taking gabs where they can though, not at all . Ryzen is doing pretty good, I am happy for AMD, however an exploit that Intel didn't find, is not comparable to the years AMD, put out horrid designs that users didn't agree with, and then horrid support for said products. AMDs own actions lost them the marketshare, not an Exploit, and its going to take alot more than 2 lines of good chips to gain that trust back.

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This thread would be much better off if certain individuals could just knock it off or take it to PM instead.
When you have intel shrill like wannabeOCer around, you know that will never happen.

He will keep ranting again and again how great Intel is and how AMD lies.

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