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Interesting, but so is this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16813157807 for the same reasons. But the Asrock is cheaper ($74 vs $97), faster: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...444211vsm37811 and silent since the cpu tops out at 10w.
The pciex16 slot only runs at x1 on the Asrock, so it is not good for gaming. But you are better off not going with either of these for that purpose.
It's cheaper because it isn't itx. And no m.2.

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FYI, the quadcore intel atom boards are roughly same or lower price point, and do quite a bit more performance.


piledriver/bulldozer/excavator performance is utter garbage at 2-3ghz core speeds.


Especially with no way of getting a fast northbridge/memory controller speed to get everything talking nice.
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I'd really like to see this modified for mini-DTX. If I'm reading the specs correctly, I think this chip can actually hook up to a PCIe x4 slot in addition to everything attached to it now. Since there's no separate, dedicated southbridge on this motherboard, that could be available for another PCIe device.

I could be wrong though. Carrizo was designed with AMD's UMI link (unified media interface, effectively a PCIe x4 link that does not completely adhere to the PCIe spec) in mind, while the later Bristol Ridge released on AM4 definitely does have a true PCIe x4 link to its chipset. A second PCIe slot is only possible assuming Carrizo has a complete implementation of PCIe and not the partial implementation allowed with a simpler UMI link.

...You know what, mini-DTX AM4 would be cool too. Just give me that.


Quote: Originally Posted by rluker5 View Post
Interesting, but so is this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16813157807 for the same reasons. But the Asrock is cheaper ($74 vs $97), faster: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...444211vsm37811 and silent since the cpu tops out at 10w.
The pciex16 slot only runs at x1 on the Asrock, so it is not good for gaming. But you are better off not going with either of these for that purpose.
PCIe x1 isn't just bad for gaming. You can't run 10Gb Ethernet, you can't have fast NVMe storage, you can't have a high-performance SAS adapter, and so on. I mean sure you can have those installed, but they won't be running at peak performance. For that alone I'd give more consideration to the Carrizo system. It has a PCIe 3.0 x8 link available for one PCIe device. That's a lot more bandwidth and, for something like a file server, is probably going to provide a faster system because network and storage performance trump CPU performance.

Also Gemini Lake isn't the greatest architecture and Carrizo will outperform it. 1.5GHz base, 2.5GHz boost on the Celeron vs 2.1GHz base, 3.4GHz boost on the APU. Yes, the APU is losing in the User Benchmark results, but look at the systems: the APU is in laptops, and the Celeron is in desktops. Intel has a cooling advantage and likely a much higher short-term and long-term power limit. I believe the FX-8800P can be configured for a high-power 35W setting as well, though I'm not sure if Biostar has enabled that.


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FYI, the quadcore intel atom boards are roughly same or lower price point, and do quite a bit more performance.


piledriver/bulldozer/excavator performance is utter garbage at 2-3ghz core speeds.


Especially with no way of getting a fast northbridge/memory controller speed to get everything talking nice.
Admittedly I haven't done any benchmarks of my own to prove it, but Trinity APUs and newer don't appear to benefit from a faster northbridge, unlike AM3+ processors and the first-gen Llano APUs (because Llano sucked lol). The northbridge hooks up to the cores and memory controllers via the fusion compute link, which is extremely fast compared to the old HyperTransport bus. There shouldn't be any bottlenecks.

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What kind of tests you'd like me to do on it? I'm not getting it for review, but I'm down to bench anything on it for you guys.

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I'd probably replace the fan with a noctua or something. And repaste. Then it might not overheat during gaming.

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I'd probably replace the fan with a noctua or something. And repaste. Then it might not overheat during gaming.
I'm gonna water cool it. Because OCN.

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Wait what? Biostar is making consumer boards again?

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Wait what? Biostar is making consumer boards again?
They never stopped?

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They never stopped?
i think they stopped after Phenom II and focused only on enterprise after that. i remember they were great FSB clocking boards back then.

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