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post #31 of 215 (permalink) Old 03-30-2019, 12:53 PM
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Yet Turing didn't launch on 7nm despite it's outrageous prices. If they could have launched at 7nm they would have but they couldn't. They sit back and wait for others to bring down the costs first when it comes to using newer hardware tech. It's how NV operates for about it's whole existence. They use the old business trick of let other's sweat it out and make it cheaper, then come in and do the same stuff with orders of lower investment necessary for even less because someone else has paved the way before them.
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doesn't nvidia have "power efficiency" through really aggressive power gating / power limiting of their video cards though?




2080ti with stock cooling and power limit removed performs just as well as high end AIB cards with better cooler

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Great, thank you so much Nvidia for selling us a bunch of exorbitantly prcied side grade GPUs so that we can save a few bucks on the power bill.
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Hmh, then i want a 50W RTX2080Ti That statement just sound like kids fighting and NV is like "i can lick my own elbow".

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Using custom-designed processor from AMD making use of Zen 2 and Navi architecture, Xbox Project Scarlett will be 4x more powerful than the Xbox One X. It'll be possible of running games at 120Hz frame rates, at potential 8K resolutions, while also showcasing fancy real-time ray-tracing tech. It's the works.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Yet Turing didn't launch on 7nm despite it's outrageous prices. If they could have launched at 7nm they would have but they couldn't. They sit back and wait for others to bring down the costs first when it comes to using newer hardware tech. It's how NV operates for about it's whole existence. They use the old business trick of let other's sweat it out and make it cheaper, then come in and do the same stuff with orders of lower investment necessary for even less because someone else has paved the way before them.
Pascal was the first 16nm GPU.
So I'm not sure what "old business trick" you are talking about.
Currently they are in a unique position where they are both making GPUs from TSMC, but also nvidia don't need to rush to 7nm as well. When they released tuning, 7nm was still only starting.

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Hmh, then i want a 50W RTX2080Ti That statement just sound like kids fighting and NV is like "i can lick my own elbow".
The 2080 and radeon VII have similar performance, and similar price.
The 2080 is a 225W TDP card, the radeon VII, using lower powered memory even, is a 295W TDP card. And yes, that is on a 7nm card.
At 275W, nvidia gain another 30% with the 2080 TI (even if its priced higher).
So yes, they have much more efficient GPUs. And that has been true for almost a decade now.
It is a fact, despite the hateful comments about it. No matter how much you hate it, you can't change that fact.
Whether they can keep it up, maybe not. But right now, they are.

If they gain the same performance as AMD going to 7nm, roughly 30%, on the same TDP, they will gain an even bigger lead if they use similar architecture, unless navi is huge architecture change.



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2080 is not a 225W card LOL, maybe with the stock restricted specs and hard locked and nonexistent voltage control by user. Even 2070 goes 250W+. 2080 is maybe a 350W card or there about. Any card is a 50W when you power throttle the crap out of it just like Nvidia is doing for generations now.
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With the advent of game streaming (data center gaming) that's about to take place, Nvidia should take a really really hard look in the mirror. No one is going to come $1k out of pocket anymore for their BS. Obviously some crazy people still will but I'll just pay a streaming fee every month to get an even better experience. Thanks, Google (ugh).

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With the advent of game streaming (data center gaming) that's about to take place, Nvidia should take a really really hard look in the mirror. No one is going to come $1k out of pocket anymore for their BS. Obviously some crazy people still will but I'll just pay a streaming fee every month to get an even better experience. Thanks, Google (ugh).
Game streaming will never become that popular due to esports.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
With the advent of game streaming (data center gaming) that's about to take place, Nvidia should take a really really hard look in the mirror. No one is going to come $1k out of pocket anymore for their BS. Obviously some crazy people still will but I'll just pay a streaming fee every month to get an even better experience. Thanks, Google (ugh).
What does nVidia have to worry about? nVidia already has GeForce Now which allows people to play pretty much any PC game while Google Stadia is a Linux platform. It's going to take Google Stadia awhile before it can compete with the other Cloud gaming providers. I suggest you wait until Microsoft releases their Project xCloud. Apple Arcade is going to have more titles than Google Stadia.

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