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post #11 of 38 (permalink) Old 04-02-2019, 06:35 PM
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Now we should finally be able to see how fast Optane can be read. From what I've read about pcm, it seems like it won't read much slower than dram, but the writes do take time because the atomic structure has to be changed. Would be a good candidate for a write cache I think.

I wonder how many more years before I can pick up an 8c16t ringbus cpu with a pair of 32GB ddr5 and a pair of 512GB optane dimms?

I was excited for that for a while before I picked up my 900p in 11/2017. Will probably still be a few more years.

But for server stuff, for tasks that are helped by fast data retrieval, AMD won't even be a contender. For stuff that doesn't need more data than fits in ram AMD should do well.
Also phase change memory holds data for something like 300 years per wiki so there is that.

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post #12 of 38 (permalink) Old 04-02-2019, 11:39 PM
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The pricing seems to be pretty intel specific.

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AnandTech Cores BaseFreq Turbo Freq L3 Cache TDP Price
Platinum 9282 56 C / 112 T 2.6 GHz 3.8 GHz 77.0 MB 400 W arm
Platinum 9242 48 C / 96 T 2.3 GHz 3.8 GHz 71.5 MB 350 W leg
Platinum 9222 32 C / 64 T 2.3 GHz 3.7 GHz 71.5 MB 250 W foot
Platinum 9221 32 C / 64 T 2.1 GHz 3.7 GHz 71.5 MB 250 W kidney
I think they are under valuing them.

If they ever bring a 64c/ 128 T, it will cost someone his first born.


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7000$ for Quad Core XEON!.
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7000$ for Quad Core XEON!.
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Optane memory is non-volatile unlike DDR, so power outages are a non issue here. I was kinda expecting intel to make something like quad 28c CPU glued together.
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How will the compare in price to AMDs 64 Core? From the looks of things this is clearly faster but 400W TDP you could have 2P Epyc systems and probably still cost less.

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How will the compare in price to AMDs 64 Core? From the looks of things this is clearly faster but 400W TDP you could have 2P Epyc systems and probably still cost less.
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While the dual Xeon Platinum 8280 processors often led in the raw performance benchmarks, the price of each of these processors is over ten thousand dollars. In comparison, AMD's top-end EPYC 7601 goes for ~$4,464 USD per processor or two EPYC 7601 processors for less than the price of a single Xeon Platinum 8280.
Cascade lake in compasion to AMD EPYC 7601.


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Xeon Platinum 8280 Has higher TDP then EPIC 32C part, If AMD chose to bump the TDP then it could close the Gap in AVG, but since they got ROME coming they saw no reason for that?
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So they still haven't gotten to 64 cores.

Man I wish I had bought some AMD stock n 2016.

This is two, 28-core dies glued together too. Which considering AMD uses multi-die to get 64 cores its fine, but its funny that Intel complained so much about the glue and here they are trying to compete by doing it too.
The craziest thing though is that Anad shows the highest end 28-core at nearly $18k. So how much does Intel expect people to pay for the 56-core version? lol At that point you could probably buy a two or three AMD servers with 64-core processors for the price of the single Intel 56-core.


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OMG- Look:
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7000$ for Quad Core XEON!.
I wonder how they even decide the pricing and who's gonna even buy that? One it's quad core, it should be obsolete long ago by now especially on the server market. Two it's clockspeeds aren't even that impressive, even if it clocks 10ghz I doubt 7k would justify the price but it's a mediocre 3.8ghz. Heck all cpus under 12 cores on the server line up shouldn't even exist unless it's super low power, not to mention everything is super overpriced. There's an almost $18k cpu and the 9200 series would be even more expensive, we'll probably see a cpu in the 6 digit range from intel in no time only to be made obsolete by AMD with a cheaper cpu if there isn't already a better and cheaper option available on the market. You have to be real rich, don't look at the specs/options and love wasting money to even consider to buy these.

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