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post #11 of 62 (permalink) Old 04-12-2019, 12:18 AM
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When I picked mine up, there is a Samsung QLED Q70R 49" 4K Smart UHD LED TV QN49Q70RAFXZA (2019) 240hz going for $1248

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I see the only people purchasing this 144hz display as someone new to the computer scene or brand loyal. Am I wrong?
Considering the Q70R, or any TV, for that matter (because they lack HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4), doesn't support 4K144, yes, you'd be wrong.

This is a HDR1000 4K144 display with VRR. The features are pretty convincing.

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Considering the Q70R, or any TV, for that matter (because they lack HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4), doesn't support 4K144, yes, you'd be wrong.

This is a HDR1000 4K144 display with VRR. The features are pretty convincing.
Granted it'll only get you 4k 120hz but we have hdmi 2.1 tvs now with the 2019 LG lineup. edit: bah still preorder silly wrong source Even their 2018 lineup did 4k 120hz but limited to native apps only.

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The article was updated with pricing and availability:

"The display will be available in the US, Europe, the Middle East and Africa in September, starting at $1,299/€1,499."
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post #14 of 62 (permalink) Old 04-12-2019, 06:12 AM
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They better offer it at a reasonable price point or the OLED market will wipe the floor with them. LED and OLED screens(I have a 43" NU6900 @120) have been consistently getting better and better Variable Refresh rates. When I picked mine up, there is a Samsung QLED Q70R 49" 4K Smart UHD LED TV QN49Q70RAFXZA (2019) 240hz going for $1248. They had a 2018 model on Newegg(where the 2019 model is currently) that was running somewhere around $700. Got my 43" for $300.

I see the only people purchasing this 144hz display as someone new to the computer scene or brand loyal. Am I wrong?

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Considering QLED is still just an LCD panel with a backlight, that pricing would be correct. It is not an emissive display like OLED and can not achieve perfect contrast. "LED" screens just mean they use LED backlights; almost every screen today is LED, but they still use IPS/VA/TN panels in front of the LEDs.

Also 240hz is not the input refresh rate, it's a motion interpolation rate. Input rate is just 60hz. The NU6900 is also only actually 60hz (with a response time of 16.2ms, this is correct), and does not have VRR.

TVs are not comparable to monitors.

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I would not mind this screen, but I already have a trio of [email protected] monitors. I see absolutely no reason to buy this when I can hold out until OLED and get all the contrast of VA with the response times of TN and vibrancy of IPS in a single package.

If I'm going to drop more than a grand on a screen it's going to need to be a good screen, not this.

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This makes those BFGD seem a bit stupid?
Also 40-43" is perfect for 4K.

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All the specs seem right and the price isn't as bad as I would have expected. I guess now it's just waiting for a review to see if it's any good. I kind of wish it didn't have HDR driving up the price, seems pointless until we get OLEDs.

What will the refresh rate need to be limited to for HDR @ 4k over DP1.4?

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Granted it'll only get you 4k 120hz but we have hdmi 2.1 tvs now with the 2019 LG lineup. edit: bah still preorder silly wrong source Even their 2018 lineup did 4k 120hz but limited to native apps only.
In any case, the new LG lineup will be more expensive.

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That HDMI 2.1 will make it look better though, especially at higher refresh rates where the monitor will be stuck on 8 bit. Unless I'm mistaken about HDR1000 requiring 10 bit.


EDIT: I just went to that bandwidth calculator and it looks like you could do a custom resolution of 3840x1600 (21:9) and be under the bandwidth cap of dp1.4 with 10bit. I'm not sure what sort of headroom is needed to function properly but 3840x1600 @ 144hz with 10bit is 31.85 gbps, if you limit it to 120hz there should be plenty of headroom.

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That HDMI 2.1 will make it look better though, especially at higher refresh rates where the monitor will be stuck on 8 bit. Unless I'm mistaken about HDR1000 requiring 10 bit.


EDIT: I just went to that bandwidth calculator and it looks like you could do a custom resolution of 3840x1600 (21:9) and be under the bandwidth cap of dp1.4 with 10bit. I'm not sure what sort of headroom is needed to function properly but 3840x1600 @ 144hz with 10bit is 31.85 gbps, if you limit it to 120hz there should be plenty of headroom.
It doesn't work that way. The back-plane of the display will be the limiting factor.

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It doesn't work that way. The back-plane of the display will be the limiting factor.
Is there a way to know what that limit will be from specs or will we need to wait until someone tests it?

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