[Wired] Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation - Page 2 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

Forum Jump: 

[Wired] Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #11 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 05:28 PM
Not a linux lobbyist
 
rluker5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,561
Rep: 42 (Unique: 33)
Quote: Originally Posted by EastCoast View Post
Yeah, he didn't get the memo on that. The way it's going to work on consoles is a polar opposite of RTX.
And from my understanding they are shooting for 60 FPS.
My comment was aimed towards Pascal and Maxwell. Kepler might get relatively better due to more shaders, or not due to the inability to do any kind of concurrent compute.

If the consoles can do it, Navi should also. Probably enhanced half precision GCN as well. Other stuff will probably fall behind. And Nvidia will have benches giving reasons to sell more new ones.

At least in a few games.

If it is hardware based raytracing that sounds just like RTX.

L5
(19 items)
Lea2
(12 items)
L7
(11 items)
CPU
5950hq
Motherboard
z97 Classified
GPU
Aorus 1080ti Waterforce
GPU
Aorus 1080ti Waterforce
RAM
16 G Gskill Trident @ 2400,cas10,1.575v
RAM
16 G Team Extreme @ 2400,cas10,1.575v
Hard Drive
2xSamsung 840 EVO 250G
Hard Drive
seagate barracuda 3T
Hard Drive
Optane 900p 480G OS
Optical Drive
Asus BW-16D1HT
Power Supply
EVGA Supernova 1300 G2
Cooling
Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 120 (cpu)
Cooling
2 140mm case fans, 2 120mm
Case
Fractal Design R4 (no window)
Operating System
W10 64 pro
Monitor
panasonic TC-58AX800U
Audio
Focal Elear
Audio
SoundbasterX AE-5
Other
Megatron
CPU
4770k
Motherboard
Asus Z87 Deluxe
GPU
Asus 780ti DC2OC
GPU
Asus 780ti DC2OC
RAM
8Gb patriot 1600mhz
Hard Drive
ROG Raidr 240Gb pcie
Hard Drive
1Tb WD blue
Power Supply
Pc Power&Cooling silencer Mk2 950w
Cooling
Deepcool Lucifer V2
Case
DIYPC P48-W
Operating System
W10 64 pro
Monitor
40"tv
CPU
4980hq
Motherboard
Asus H81T/CSM
RAM
16GB 1600 generic
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 evo 120gb
Power Supply
Skyvast 90w brick for hp pavilion something
Cooling
SilverStone Tek Super Slim
Case
SilverStone Tek PT13B
Operating System
W10 64 pro
Monitor
50" samsung plasma 720p
Keyboard
Logitech K400+
Other
Intel wifi ac card and noname antennas
▲ hide details ▲
rluker5 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 05:31 PM
sudo apt install sl
 
WannaBeOCer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,355
Rep: 149 (Unique: 107)
Quote: Originally Posted by rluker5 View Post
My comment was aimed towards Pascal and Maxwell. Kepler might get relatively better due to more shaders, or not due to the inability to do any kind of concurrent compute.

If the consoles can do it, Navi should also. Probably enhanced half precision GCN as well. Other stuff will probably fall behind. And Nvidia will have benches giving reasons to sell more new ones.

At least in a few games.

If it is hardware based raytracing that sounds just like RTX.
Most likely dedicated hardware for BVH algorithms just like RT cores. Most likely the PS5 API will just Ray Trace the mesh of an object just like the CryEngine demo instead of the entire object like DxR.

Maximus
(20 items)
CPU
Core i7 6700K 4.8Ghz @ 1.4v
Motherboard
Maximus VIII Formula
GPU
Radeon VII @ 2100Mhz/1200Mhz w/ 1150mV
RAM
G-Skill 32GB 3200Mhz
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNova 1200w P2
Cooling
EK Supremacy Full Copper Clean
Cooling
XSPC D5 Photon v2
Cooling
Black Ice Gen 2 GTX360 x2
Cooling
EK-Vector Radeon VII - Copper + Plexi
Case
Thermaltake Core X5 Tempered Glass Edition
Operating System
Clear Linux
Monitor
Acer XF270HUA
Keyboard
Cherry MX Board 6.0
Mouse
Logitech G600
Mouse
Alugraphics GamerArt
Audio
Definitive Technology Incline
Audio
SMSL M8A
▲ hide details ▲
WannaBeOCer is offline  
post #13 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 05:34 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
thegreatsquare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 4,293
Rep: 319 (Unique: 272)
As long as there's still physical discs for games, I think I'm buying a PS5 first and my next gaming laptop second because mobile CPUs aren't where they need to be for next-gen ports.

Can anyone explain to me why MSI needs our laptops back on top of the wholesale price they're already more or less recouping from us with their GT72(s)/GT80(s) trade in program? MSI isn't a company you can trust!
thegreatsquare is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #14 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 09:11 PM
Graphics Junkie
 
UltraMega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 820
Rep: 15 (Unique: 15)
I don't see the PS5 or any console having any hardware dedicated to ray tracing. I could definitely see AMD having something that is more gpGPU based with a lot of optimization for ray tracing, and I think that is the direction Nvidia should have gone in and likely will go in for future generations. That said, I wonder if devs would want to use it if there wasn't dedicated hardware for it. My guess is they would prefer to stick to other rendering methods for lighting and focus the extra GPU power somewhere else. The trade off in performance with ray tracing is just not worth it.

That said, I'm sure whatever the PS5 does, the next Xbox will do as well, and vice versa. It's going to come down to content and Microsoft has a lot of catching up to do there. Definitely excited to see what the next console generation will bring, but at least things aren't as bad for us PC gamers as they were in the PS3 era. That console generation lasted waaaay too long.

i7 7700kK @4.2ghz
16GB DDR4 3200mhz
GeForce 1080 Ti
UltraMega is offline  
post #15 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 09:29 PM
MegaTechPC
 
Majin SSJ Eric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Saint Simons Island, GA
Posts: 19,206
Rep: 1092 (Unique: 517)
Pretty exciting stuff from both Sony and MS regarding their new upcoming consoles! I mean, PC-esque graphics are going to become the norm this generation and that's great news for ALL of us! Obviously fully maxed out PC's with 2080Ti's and i9's or R9's will still provide better graphics than any $500 console can, but I could see the PS5 and the XB2 providing an experience comparable to a midrange PC (especially taking into account console optimization) and that will be great for both console and PC gamers; those on consoles will benefit from the better graphical performance of their chosen consoles and PC gamers will benefit from the fact that games development will be largely the same across all platforms leading to better looking and performing console ports. Long gone are the days of the PS3 when every port was a buggy, poor performing mess that looked awful on PC....


3DMark11 - P25138
3DMark Firestrike - P20998

Intel Core i7 4930K @ 4.7GHz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | 2 x EVGA GTX Titan SC (1254MHz) | 16GB Patriot Viper Extreme DDR3 2133MHz (4 x 4GB) | Corsair AX1200 | Silverstone Temjin TJ11 | Corsair Force 3 240GB (System) | 2 x Intel 320 160GB SSD (Dedicated Gaming Drives) | Hitachi Deskstar 1TB (Data) | MS Windows 10 Pro | EK Supreme HF/FC-Titan/Rampage IV Extreme blocks | Hardware Labs GTX 560/240 rads | Alphacool VPP-655 D5 pump | Bitspower mod kit/pump top/fittings/120mm res


Majin SSJ Eric is offline  
post #16 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 09:34 PM
What should be here ?
 
huzzug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,187
Rep: 355 (Unique: 255)
Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
That console generation lasted waaaay too long.
PS3 was released in Mar '07 (what? US isn't the center of the world?) and the PS4 Nov '13. That's six years and few odd months give or take. This new console is likely to drop Nov '20. They didn't last way to long / short. That's just how time appears when one grows older.

#2 their debt is insane, even for a "diverse field" company. They cannot even afford to service the debt maintenance let alone make an actual dent in the debt itself. - Internet Stranger
huzzug is online now  
post #17 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 09:50 PM
 
The Robot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
Rep: 126 (Unique: 79)
Quote: Originally Posted by huzzug View Post
PS3 was released in Mar '07 (what? US isn't the center of the world?) and the PS4 Nov '13. That's six years and few odd months give or take. This new console is likely to drop Nov '20. They didn't last way to long / short. That's just how time appears when one grows older.
Xbox 360 was released in 2005 though, that's 8 years. And factor in that the first two years of PS4/XB1 we got mostly crossgen stuff on old engines. That's a decade of stagnation right there.

Main
(17 items)
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
CPU
6700K
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3
GPU
MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X
RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
Hard Drive
WD Blue 3TB
Power Supply
EVGA 650 G2
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S
Cooling
Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm
Cooling
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm
Case
Corsair 400Q
Operating System
Windows 10 Enterprise
Monitor
ViewSonic XG2703-GS 1440p
Keyboard
Leopold FC750 (MX Brown)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Audio
Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z
CPU
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz
CPU
ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz
RAM
4 MB
Hard Drive
256 kB
Power Supply
850 mAh
Operating System
DS OS
Monitor
3" 256×192 18-bit
Monitor
3" 256×192 18-bit
▲ hide details ▲
The Robot is offline  
post #18 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 09:55 PM
Original 16-bit Genesis®
 
Omega X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: That gap between the couch cushion.
Posts: 1,594
Rep: 66 (Unique: 43)
I see that AMD's TrueAudio stuff also made it into PS5.
Omega X is offline  
post #19 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 10:13 PM
 
The Robot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
Rep: 126 (Unique: 79)
Quote: Originally Posted by Omega X View Post
I see that AMD's TrueAudio stuff also made it into PS5.
Supposedly it was also in PS4, but didn't get much use for some reason.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/7513/ps4-spec-update-audio-dsp-is-based-on-amds-trueaudio

Main
(17 items)
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
CPU
6700K
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3
GPU
MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X
RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
Hard Drive
WD Blue 3TB
Power Supply
EVGA 650 G2
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S
Cooling
Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm
Cooling
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm
Case
Corsair 400Q
Operating System
Windows 10 Enterprise
Monitor
ViewSonic XG2703-GS 1440p
Keyboard
Leopold FC750 (MX Brown)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Audio
Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z
CPU
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz
CPU
ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz
RAM
4 MB
Hard Drive
256 kB
Power Supply
850 mAh
Operating System
DS OS
Monitor
3" 256×192 18-bit
Monitor
3" 256×192 18-bit
▲ hide details ▲
The Robot is offline  
post #20 of 127 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 10:16 PM
What should be here ?
 
huzzug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,187
Rep: 355 (Unique: 255)
Quote: Originally Posted by The Robot View Post
Xbox 360 was released in 2005 though, that's 8 years.
I mean as I said, that how you perceive time when you grow older. So.....

Quote:
And factor in that the first two years of PS4/XB1 we got mostly crossgen stuff on old engines. That's a decade of stagnation right there.
Oh, you mean Pro Evo Soccer, Transformers, Tomb Raider, Spideyboi and many more......

That's like every gen release. Again, it appears that things lasted longer when you were younger because it's just that. You were younger.

#2 their debt is insane, even for a "diverse field" company. They cannot even afford to service the debt maintenance let alone make an actual dent in the debt itself. - Internet Stranger
huzzug is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off