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post #11 of 78 (permalink) Old 04-24-2019, 09:41 AM
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If AMD comes out the gate with 16 cores on main stream with decent clock speeds(4.6ghz-4.8ghz) then Its RIP intel.

If AMD can deliver I may even get off my 9900k and jump to AMD. I have no doubt AMD can smash intel in multi threaded work loads at a moment notice, major thing I want to see is how much can AMD close single thread performance.
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Well I certainly don't need a 16 core to sway me away from a 9900k, it's only marginally ahead of the existing 2700x with a 800mhz clock speed advantage. It's game over for the 9900k if AMD comes out with an 8/16 that matches it in clock speed. It might get really embarrassing if we start to include pricing in the conversation.

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We all know that AMD can go upto 16 cores, and we also know how hard was for Intel to make Core i9 9990XE 14C 5.0Ghz, this can give you an Idea that there is no more Clock speed bump to save Intel with New Refresh.
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The only new thing from this refresh is that i3s now have Turbo.
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Maybe he meant the pentiums.
There are a few 2 core 4 thread options there.
The original Coffee-Lake Pentiums (Pentium Gold; no non-gold offerings as far as I can tell) already had 2c/4t. OP should probably edit the post.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-70-ghz.html
Yeah, I meant turbo boost. Just being derpy.

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No Refresh can save them This time ;-).
Intel CPU 2018-2021 Roadmap Leaks Out – Up To 10 Core Comet Lake-S Desktop CPUs in 2020, 14nm Rocket Lake-S in 2021, No 10nm LGA Parts Till 2022
https://wccftech.com/intel-desktop-m...ke-tiger-lake/
What if there aren't significant clockspeed or power consumption gains with only further node reductions for cpus? 32nm fx runs faster than 12nm Ryzen speeds and 32nm core runs at 14nm core speeds. Efficiency got a lot better over 14nm core generations, but a simple shrink from 22nm baytrail to 14nm cherrytrail brought neither clockspeed nor efficiency gains. Maybe Intel needs to get that cobalt stuff working for there to be a big difference.

The biggest cpu performance jump we've had in the last few years was due to a new arch. Intel will be getting an arch update just like AMD with the next gen so I expect them to hold their performance lead with most common tasks. No matter what nm AMD goes to.

This doesn't seem to apply as much with gpus though and I expect the worst case scenario with Navi is the jump we has from Vega 64 to VII.

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If AMD comes out the gate with 16 cores on main stream with decent clock speeds(4.6ghz-4.8ghz) then Its RIP intel.

If AMD can deliver I may even get off my 9900k and jump to AMD. I have no doubt AMD can smash intel in multi threaded work loads at a moment notice, major thing I want to see is how much can AMD close single thread performance.
Yeah I'm just waiting to see hopefully AMD meet the 9900k in single thread and I'll finally upgrade from my X58. I could get a 9900k with employees discount but I am waiting for AMD. We need the competition back for these prices to get back to reasonability. Already miffed at the RTX fiasco

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Quote: Originally Posted by doom26464 View Post
If AMD comes out the gate with 16 cores on main stream with decent clock speeds(4.6ghz-4.8ghz) then Its RIP intel.

If AMD can deliver I may even get off my 9900k and jump to AMD. I have no doubt AMD can smash intel in multi threaded work loads at a moment notice, major thing I want to see is how much can AMD close single thread performance.
Yeah I'm just waiting to see hopefully AMD meet the 9900k in single thread and I'll finally upgrade from my X58. I could get a 9900k with employees discount but I am waiting for AMD. We need the competition back for these prices to get back to reasonability. Already miffed at the RTX fiasco

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No Refresh can save them This time ;-).
Intel CPU 2018-2021 Roadmap Leaks Out – Up To 10 Core Comet Lake-S Desktop CPUs in 2020, 14nm Rocket Lake-S in 2021, No 10nm LGA Parts Till 2022
https://wccftech.com/intel-desktop-m...ke-tiger-lake/
That roadmap is Intel SIPP roadmap which is a business oriented offering with its own lifecycle with stable offerings in terms of platform changes. It doesn't reflect regular client CPU roadmap in terms of timeline.

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