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post #21 of 78 (permalink) Old 04-24-2019, 07:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by mmonnin View Post
These look like office CPUs for Dells/HPs.
I'd sure take one for my office PC.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Kpjoslee View Post
That roadmap is Intel SIPP roadmap which is a business oriented offering with its own lifecycle with stable offerings in terms of platform changes. It doesn't reflect regular client CPU roadmap in terms of timeline.
But aren't they are the best customers for first 10nm CPU's? Normal clock, low power? they can't make "5Ghz 9900K" 10nm part for DIY desktops at first 10nm revision.
The Core i9 9990XE is the best example that they can't keep Raising clocks on those 14++++++++nm parts and they need new generation to improve IPC.

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But aren't they are the best customers for first 10nm CPU's? Normal clock, low power? they can't make "5Ghz 9900K" 10nm part for DIY desktops at first 10nm revision.
The Core i9 9990XE is the best example that they can't keep Raising clocks on those 14++++++++nm parts and they need new generation to improve IPC.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...m-program.html

Eligible components on SIPP doesn't use latest products, as they are at least several quarters behind their client CPU roadmap, and Intel's client CPU roadmap as a whole could be little different from what SIPP roadmap is showing. While the lack of 10nm desktop CPU is not a good sign, I don't think we can draw any conclusions at this point just by looking at that roadmap.

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So many derpy fan-boys in here. I rode my Sandy lake 2600k @4.5-4.7ghz for 7 years. I now have an 8700k @ 5ghz that I expect to ride for at least that long. CPU's just aren't that sexy anymore. The differences for anyone running a *real* resolution in games (1440,2160,4k) are negligible across all chips. Shoot, my 2600k was still running games just fine at 1600p on my 1080ti. The only reason I upgraded was because I was bored, hadn't done a build in 7 years, and wanted some of the newer chip-set features. I'm no brand loyalist. I was doing the 'pencil trick overclock' on Athlon/Duron AMD chips (2001ish?)before most fanboys posting here even knew about Intel/AMD wars. I've had ATI/AMD *and* Nvidia cards for 20 years. The people in here proclaiming "intel is RIP" because AMD finally, ALMOST caught up to them after 10+ years of stagnation is hilarious. Get a grip. Stop being fanboys for companies that don't care about you.

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No Refresh can save them This time ;-).
Intel CPU 2018-2021 Roadmap Leaks Out – Up To 10 Core Comet Lake-S Desktop CPUs in 2020, 14nm Rocket Lake-S in 2021, No 10nm LGA Parts Till 2022
https://wccftech.com/intel-desktop-m...ke-tiger-lake/
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So many derpy fan-boys in here. I rode my Sandy lake 2600k @4.5-4.7ghz for 7 years. I now have an 8700k @ 5ghz that I expect to ride for at least that long. CPU's just aren't that sexy anymore. The differences for anyone running a *real* resolution in games (1440,2160,4k) are negligible across all chips. Shoot, my 2600k was still running games just fine at 1600p on my 1080ti. The only reason I upgraded was because I was bored, hadn't done a build in 7 years, and wanted some of the newer chip-set features. I'm no brand loyalist. I was doing the 'pencil trick overclock' on Athlon/Duron AMD chips (2001ish?)before most fanboys posting here even knew about Intel/AMD wars. I've had ATI/AMD *and* Nvidia cards for 20 years. The people in here proclaiming "intel is RIP" because AMD finally, ALMOST caught up to them after 10+ years of stagnation is hilarious. Get a grip. Stop being fanboys for companies that don't care about you.
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Zen2 very soon. Currently zero hype for Intel CPUs.

9900k gaming performance is good, but not in light of price, power draw and heat.
There is a 9900K without a IPGU and charge u premium for it.


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Quote: Originally Posted by evensen007 View Post
So many derpy fan-boys in here. I rode my Sandy lake 2600k @4.5-4.7ghz for 7 years. I now have an 8700k @ 5ghz that I expect to ride for at least that long. CPU's just aren't that sexy anymore. The differences for anyone running a *real* resolution in games (1440,2160,4k) are negligible across all chips. Shoot, my 2600k was still running games just fine at 1600p on my 1080ti. The only reason I upgraded was because I was bored, hadn't done a build in 7 years, and wanted some of the newer chip-set features. I'm no brand loyalist. I was doing the 'pencil trick overclock' on Athlon/Duron AMD chips (2001ish?)before most fanboys posting here even knew about Intel/AMD wars. I've had ATI/AMD *and* Nvidia cards for 20 years. The people in here proclaiming "intel is RIP" because AMD finally, ALMOST caught up to them after 10+ years of stagnation is hilarious. Get a grip. Stop being fanboys for companies that don't care about you.
A lot of us interested in CPU's don't really care much about gaming performance, it's a pretty insignificant performance metric.

If all you needed to do is play games then you could have snagged a 2600x and a motherboard for the cost of that 8700k, since brand loyalty isn't a factor.

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The differences for anyone running a *real* resolution in games (1440,2160,4k) are negligible across all chips.
There's only correlation between higher resolutions and how negligible CPU performance deltas are between different models, not causation. It's not expressly shown in reviews because settings are always maxed out and putting most of the strain on the GPU, but it's implied. It's up to readers to be perceptive.

Also, I'm sure someone with a 4K monitor would laugh at your biased standard floor for resolutions. You're not the arbiter.

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