[ET] No, the PlayStation 5 Doesn’t Use AMD’s ‘Ryzen 3600G’ - Page 2 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community
Forum Jump: 

[ET] No, the PlayStation 5 Doesn’t Use AMD’s ‘Ryzen 3600G’

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-26-2019, 08:29 PM
Overclocking Enthusiast
 
ozlay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 5,743
Rep: 284 (Unique: 224)
Well a 7nm 20cu chip should be on par with RX580. If it has HBM anyways. Which the 3600G might not have?

However the PS5 isn't going to be AM4 so the chip can be as big as they want. They could strap an R7 to it.

Rikka
(9 items)
CPU
Intel I5-7600k
Motherboard
Asrock Z270M Extreme 4
GPU
Titan X
RAM
Gskill Royal
Hard Drive
970 Evo
Hard Drive
Optane 900p
Power Supply
Seasonic Prime Snow
Case
enthoo evolv matx tempered glass
Operating System
windows 10 pro
▲ hide details ▲


ozlay is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-28-2019, 01:15 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
prjindigo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,711
Rep: 152 (Unique: 89)
honestly

What I honestly heard was that it was going to be separate cpu and gpu both designed for a proprietary bus arrangement, could easily be both running GDDR6 as ram.
prjindigo is offline  
post #13 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-28-2019, 04:29 PM
PC Evangelist
 
ZealotKi11er's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, CA
Posts: 46,113
Rep: 1802 (Unique: 1176)
Quote: Originally Posted by ozlay View Post
Well a 7nm 20cu chip should be on par with RX580. If it has HBM anyways. Which the 3600G might not have?

However the PS5 isn't going to be AM4 so the chip can be as big as they want. They could strap an R7 to it.
Forget HBM. It is way-way too expensive. G6 is about the double speed of G5. That should cover the memory front. You can have a 40CU chip ~ 1.8GHz with 14gbps g6. That would be at least Vega 64 performance but somehow I still think next gen needs to be faster. 12 Tflops+ minimum.

Yamato
(10 items)
Ishimura
(13 items)
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi)
GPU
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
RAM
G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL14
Hard Drive
Samsung SM961 512GB
Hard Drive
HGST DeskStar NAS 6TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 P2
Cooling
Gamdias Chione M1A-280R
Case
Fractal Design Meshify C TG
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.8GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77E-ITX
GPU
AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition
RAM
AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10
Hard Drive
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3
Cooling
Corsair H100i GTX
Case
Fractal Design Define Nano S
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
Monitor
LG OLED55C7P
Keyboard
Cooler Master MasterKeys MK750
Mouse
Finalmouse Air58 Ninja
▲ hide details ▲


ZealotKi11er is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #14 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-29-2019, 08:21 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
StAndrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 289
Rep: 15 (Unique: 11)
Computer based chips and APU's generally dont meet console tight requirements and tolerances. Generally it will be a custom chip based off current architecture. That said, I'm sure this incures some overhead in costs.

If an APU or other chip can be dropped into a console, reducing overhead, Sony and/or Microsoft can gain an advantage.
StAndrew is online now  
post #15 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-29-2019, 09:25 AM
I <3 narcissists
 
bigjdubb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,701
Rep: 223 (Unique: 139)
I don't understand why they don't use a separate gpu and cpu. If they can fit a 6 core, 2080, and a screen in this package then why not do something similar on the consoles. They have TONS (comparatively) of room to work with so the only thing I can see would be cost.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	edges-left-1.jpg
Views:	15
Size:	181.6 KB
ID:	267292  


Gaming Rig
(12 items)
Couch Gaming Rig
(10 items)
Work rig
(11 items)
CPU
Ryzen 7 3700x
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 Master
GPU
EVGA RTX 2080ti FTW3
RAM
G.Skill TridentZ RGB
Hard Drive
HP EX920 m.2
Hard Drive
Intel SSD6 m.2
Hard Drive
Intel SSD6 m.2
Power Supply
EVGA G3
Cooling
CORSAIR H150I PRO
Case
LianLi PC-O11 Dynamic
Operating System
Win 10 Home
Monitor
LG 32GK650G
CPU
Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard
Asus x470i
GPU
Radeon VII
RAM
G.Skill TridentZ RGB
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 evo
Power Supply
InWin A1
Cooling
NZXT M22
Case
InWin A1
Operating System
Win10 Home
Monitor
Vizio 4k TV
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard
Asrock X470 Taichi Ultimate
GPU
GTX 750
RAM
Patriot Viper
Hard Drive
HP EX920 M.2
Power Supply
EVGA G3
Cooling
CORSAIR H150I PRO
Case
NZXT Source 210
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro
Monitor
BenQ PD3200Q
Monitor
LG 32UD59
▲ hide details ▲


bigjdubb is offline  
post #16 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-29-2019, 02:54 PM
Otherworlder
 
epic1337's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,438
Rep: 222 (Unique: 128)
Quote: Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post
I don't understand why they don't use a separate gpu and cpu. If they can fit a 6 core, 2080, and a screen in this package then why not do something similar on the consoles. They have TONS (comparatively) of room to work with so the only thing I can see would be cost.
good point, its highly likely a MCM package.

trolling an adult is very dangerous, don't try it at home nor at work. you don't want to play tag with a rabid man.
epic1337 is offline  
post #17 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-29-2019, 11:36 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
tubers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,463
Rep: 50 (Unique: 46)
Quote: Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post
I don't understand why they don't use a separate gpu and cpu. If they can fit a 6 core, 2080, and a screen in this package then why not do something similar on the consoles. They have TONS (comparatively) of room to work with so the only thing I can see would be cost.
Maybe AMD gave them a good deal on the APU.
tubers is offline  
post #18 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-30-2019, 07:33 AM
PC Evangelist
 
ZealotKi11er's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, CA
Posts: 46,113
Rep: 1802 (Unique: 1176)
Quote: Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post
I don't understand why they don't use a separate gpu and cpu. If they can fit a 6 core, 2080, and a screen in this package then why not do something similar on the consoles. They have TONS (comparatively) of room to work with so the only thing I can see would be cost.
Lol. Cost. Everyone should have 2080 Ti but Cost.

Yamato
(10 items)
Ishimura
(13 items)
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi)
GPU
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
RAM
G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL14
Hard Drive
Samsung SM961 512GB
Hard Drive
HGST DeskStar NAS 6TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 P2
Cooling
Gamdias Chione M1A-280R
Case
Fractal Design Meshify C TG
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.8GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77E-ITX
GPU
AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition
RAM
AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10
Hard Drive
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3
Cooling
Corsair H100i GTX
Case
Fractal Design Define Nano S
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
Monitor
LG OLED55C7P
Keyboard
Cooler Master MasterKeys MK750
Mouse
Finalmouse Air58 Ninja
▲ hide details ▲


ZealotKi11er is offline  
post #19 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-30-2019, 08:04 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
StAndrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 289
Rep: 15 (Unique: 11)
Quote: Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
Lol. Cost. Everyone should have 2080 Ti but Cost.
Pretty much. More to that point, making a compact package is costly as well. The console isnt the money maker for Sony or Microsoft, its the games, so consoles are created with the "just enough and no more" mentality. So ideally you want more ppl buying your console so they also buy your games. Console costs are driven down to the max. Microsoft, IIRC, actually loses money on each Xbox sale.

Asus Prime Z370, Intel 8700k @5.0Ghz, Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti, 16GB @3400 CL14, Watercooling: x2 MCP355 pumps, x1 280 on front of case, x1 360 on top of case, x1 140 on back of case, x1 240 on bottom of case
StAndrew is online now  
post #20 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-30-2019, 09:46 AM
sudo apt install sl
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,127
Rep: 186 (Unique: 129)
Quote: Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post
I don't understand why they don't use a separate gpu and cpu. If they can fit a 6 core, 2080, and a screen in this package then why not do something similar on the consoles. They have TONS (comparatively) of room to work with so the only thing I can see would be cost.
Those thin laptops with RTX 2080 use the Max-Q versions which throttle heavily on demanding games and are slower than the GTX 1080. The laptops that don't throttle are the DTR laptops and they are loud around 49.5 dB(A) while consoles are between 28-36. A 7nm part that compares to a GTX 1080 would be perfect for a console.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/10795...ith-gtx-1080/2

Silent
(20 items)
CPU
Core i9 9900K... CoffeeTime! @ 5.1Ghz w/ 1.36v
Motherboard
Maximus VIII Formula
GPU
Titan RTX @ 2100Mhz/2075Mhz w/ .975v
RAM
TeamGroup Xtreem 32GB 3200Mhz CL15
Hard Drive
HP EX950 2TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNova 1200w P2
Cooling
EK Supremacy Full Copper Clean
Cooling
XSPC D5 Photon v2
Cooling
Black Ice Gen 2 GTX360 x2
Cooling
EK-Vector Radeon VII - Copper + Plexi
Case
Thermaltake Core X5 Tempered Glass Edition
Operating System
Clear Linux
Monitor
Acer XF270HUA
Keyboard
Cherry MX Board 6.0
Mouse
Logitech G600
Mouse
Alugraphics GamerArt
Audio
Definitive Technology Incline
Audio
SMSL M8A
▲ hide details ▲
WannaBeOCer is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off