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post #21 of 35 (permalink) Old 05-03-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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just because you are not forward thinking is no reason to get insulting, calling it european.
Ok, we would call it Gayropean instead

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They know the laws have teeth in the United States and if they got caught the whole operation and the people involved would go up. Its easier to compromise hardware meant for others outside of the U.S. if they alter the shipment after it left the factory. Bugging anything on U.S. soil meant for American customers requires a warrant in order for any charges based on evidence is found.

The United States Government can't legally force a U.S. company to commit espionage. That's the difference between the United States and China. The Chinese government can force Huawei and others to spy on their behalf and there's nothing those companies can do about it.
HAHAHAHA, hilarious.

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Keep your rickety bridge.



They know the laws have teeth in the United States and if they got caught the whole operation and the people involved would go up. Its easier to compromise hardware meant for others outside of the U.S. if they alter the shipment after it left the factory. Bugging anything on U.S. soil meant for American customers requires a warrant in order for any charges based on evidence is found.

The United States Government can't legally force a U.S. company to commit espionage. That's the difference between the United States and China. The Chinese government can force Huawei and others to spy on their behalf and there's nothing those companies can do about it.

Yeah. Except we've already had leaked backdoors or attempts at installing backdoors into other projects that failed and they're not getting nabbed for it.

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Yeah. Except we've already had leaked backdoors or attempts at installing backdoors into other projects that failed and they're not getting nabbed for it.
Ignorance is strength. The fact that he has learned nothing from what Snowden revealed shows he doesn't want to know what's going on.

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Ignorance is strength. The fact that he has learned nothing from what Snowden revealed shows he doesn't want to know what's going on.
I know many people that choose to live in a bubble and deliberately look away in order to maintain their self imposed delusions. They refuse to break free no matter what in order to fit in with the rest of the sleeping masses.

Akin to The Walking Dead where those that have broken free from their indoctrination remain surrounded by the zombie majority.

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This has been beaten to death already. It was not real. There wasnt a shred of proof to begin with and 3rd party analysis found nothing amiss.
So a smear campaign by a competitor in order to force their customers to switch to a different supplier?


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Ok, we would call it Gayropean instead
Surveys show the U.S. is one the countries in the world with the highest percentage of LGBT population.

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My take on it is that in the long run were basically screwed from hardware backdoors.

While the FOSS community has exploded and there's back door free open source versions of almost everything you would want to use in the software world, the hardware world has not kept up. Right now if you want to use a truly open source hardware desktop, like everything down to the BIOS and microcode being open source you would be running some Phenom II 2007 vintage machine. Open source phone would be something running Replicant of the 2012 vintage.

Granted right now were mostly safe since the only people that can reasonably be exploited by hardware backdoors are those subject to specifically targeted govt level agency attacks. Though with the constant proliferation of hardware back doors theres gonna come a point where running total FOSS software won't matter when govt/leo can just Intel ME into your OS's kernel/ring zero whether that be a phone or desktop or whatever.

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My take on it is that in the long run were basically screwed from hardware backdoors.

While the FOSS community has exploded and there's back door free open source versions of almost everything you would want to use in the software world, the hardware world has not kept up. Right now if you want to use a truly open source hardware desktop, like everything down to the BIOS and microcode being open source you would be running some Phenom II 2007 vintage machine. Open source phone would be something running Replicant of the 2012 vintage.

Granted right now were mostly safe since the only people that can reasonably be exploited by hardware backdoors are those subject to specifically targeted govt level agency attacks. Though with the constant proliferation of hardware back doors theres gonna come a point where running total FOSS software won't matter when govt/leo can just Intel ME into your OS's kernel/ring zero whether that be a phone or desktop or whatever.
Yeah, and hardware backdoors matter even less when all your data is in the cloud and government can just request it legally from Google, Apple and the likes.

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Abandon rotten ship.
I support this move.
ABANDON CHINA! Should be mass call for all companies.
It would be hard 3-4 years but China economy most depended Economy on the planet from West will sink.
China last years become synonymous for Crap. When I hear China I hear Junk Quality.
And on top of that they become insolent and dictate their condition.... What... left them 5 milion people without jobs and they will beg on knees only to sell in USA and Europe.
China money would collapse much before they bankrupt on just little rumors that Western companies Abandon China and remove production in East Europe and South America inflation would eat China very fast.
If they still complain send 5 more millions back to China and they will start cannibalism on China streets.

China notice that west usually look more for Taiwan brands and I afraid for Taiwan, China will soon attack them if something not happen.
Imagine if China start to influence on ASUS and Lian Li quality. Mmmm... I would not buy them for sure after China land there. We will find birds craps in boxes.

Only Asians who would stay without jobs in China if Western Companies over 200 of them move from China would collapse their economy.
Without anything else... plus prohibition of selling in Europe and USA.... One state in USA buy more than whole Russia years.

Everything stop, one thing after another in chain reaction of collapse Chine economy.
That must be followed with mass campaign of learning kids to invest in quality and repairable parts not craps every 2 years because on that way we drain more resources from planet. China and Russian mentality would left planet without resources, they would wake up one day in reality and start to reduce number of population killing first sick, retared, invalids, etc... All of us know that.

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