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Yeah. Except we've already had leaked backdoors or attempts at installing backdoors into other projects that failed and they're not getting nabbed for it.

None of those were coerced, They were done voluntarily. Those that got caught trying to install backdoors were not condoned by the company/organization, hence getting caught. Just like when the CIA/NSA tried getting into Google's main data facility and got caught and ejected by security simply because Google refused to work with them when they asked. Chinese companies can't refuse, its do what you're told or you're locked up.
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None of those were coerced, They were done voluntarily. Those that got caught trying to install backdoors were not condoned by the company/organization, hence getting caught. Just like when the CIA/NSA tried getting into Google's main data facility and got caught and ejected by security simply because Google refused to work with them when they asked. Chinese companies can't refuse, its do what you're told or you're locked up.
It's different if you're small fish though. There was a story about a secure email service, they came to owners doorstep demanding "either give us the keys to the castle or shut the service down". The guy had no choice but to shut it down.

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KThey know the laws have teeth in the United States and if they got caught the whole operation and the people involved would go up. Its easier to compromise hardware meant for others outside of the U.S. if they alter the shipment after it left the factory. Bugging anything on U.S. soil meant for American customers requires a warrant in order for any charges based on evidence is found.

The United States Government can't legally force a U.S. company to commit espionage. That's the difference between the United States and China. The Chinese government can force Huawei and others to spy on their behalf and there's nothing those companies can do about it.
All the big tech in US is on with US gov. whether legally or not, seeing how "legal" is pretty damn fluid in US. They may posture and pretend but in the end they all have backdoors and snooping, keys given up, etc. Once in a while it goes public to no ones surprise, so they make a new key and try remove it from all search results, and so on. Keep on dreaming, Google controls so much it's beyond ridiculous.
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It's different if you're small fish though. There was a story about a secure email service, they came to owners doorstep demanding "either give us the keys to the castle or shut the service down". The guy had no choice but to shut it down.

Yeah, they pulled a FISA request and he denied them. And not once did they abduct and torture him for refusing. In China he would have been in jail and the Chinese government would have took his company and the keys. That's the difference I'm trying to get across. Yes they can backdoor, infiltrate and try to blackmail and intimidate. But they can't legally force legal citizens to do their bidding.

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