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post #21 of 64 (permalink) Old 05-04-2019, 08:20 AM
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The problem isn't Intel but Apple. In over 30 years I would not consider buying any Apple product, used them occasionally yes and it's nothing more than a glorified Unix/Linux PC or in the old days a Snailrolla/NoPowerPC.

With their current clientele they may as well use mobile ARMs in laptops and their occasional "desktops".
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The problem isn't Intel but Apple. In over 30 years I would not consider buying any Apple product, used them occasionally yes and it's nothing more than a glorified Unix/Linux PC or in the old days a Snailrolla/NoPowerPC.

With their current clientele they may as well use mobile ARMs in laptops and their occasional "desktops".
Every other manufacturer is having Intel shortage issues and switching to AMD for supply. Since they don't make as many computers as other manufacturers and stick to the same hardware per generation they can't switch mid year to another supplier. They are also probably stuck in a contract.

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macOS is the second easiest desktop OS to use after Chrome OS. Hopefully Microsoft will cave and release a Unix based desktop OS.

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First of all, this is not apple related problem. If you ever had a thin laptop, they all have issues with cooling, because there is no room for thick strong cooling systems in there. Just no room at all. And apple do not want to release a 3 hours battery life laptop that weight 4kg, so you can pretend to have a "laptop".
I'm sorry to inform you, but physics is something that is objective, regardless of what you think.

Regarding killing chips in the long term, I disagree. I had and seen others with macbooks that last many many years.

And I'm sure what chip to use they are testing and selecting better than what you think to give the most optimal results They do not just take whatever intel gives them, but work out with intel on the right CPU and power available, and compromise where they need to.
Switching to AMD would definitely won't help, considering AMD chips run way hotter.

And regarding the 18 core xeon in the imac pro, it is fine. adequately cooled
So there is no reason to lie about it.
So stick to facts, not exaggerations and "I hate apple so I will talk nonsense and people will believe me".
Oh, didn't know you're also an Apple shareholder in addition to Nvidia.
>AMD chips run way hotter
Are you confusing Zen with Radeon?

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Pc gaming is growing amongst young hipsters, apple gaming is a forced joke. So on and so on blah blah.

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Oh, you're also an Apple shareholder in addition to Nvidia [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
>AMD chips run way hotter
Are you confusing Zen with Radeon or something?
Yes Intel laptop chips do run cooler than Zen especially when running at their TDP compared to AMD running at their TDP. Even a 9900k when running at the 95w TDP runs around 5-10 degrees lower than a 2700x while running at a higher frequency (4.1Ghz vs 3.8Ghz)

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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Yes Intel laptop chips do run cooler than Zen especially when running at their TDP compared to AMD running at their TDP. Even a 9900k when running at the 95w TDP runs around 5-10 degrees lower than a 2700x while running at a higher frequency (4.1Ghz vs 3.8Ghz)

Till AMD releases 7nm chips clock vs clock Intel has the more efficient, cooler and faster processor.
Tiny differences in real-world use, yet he made it sound like we're still in Bulldozer days. Apple could easily switch to AMD and no latte sipper would ever notice.

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Tiny differences in real-world use, yet he made it sound like we're still in Bulldozer days. Apple could easily switch to AMD and no latte sipper would ever notice.
Might pickup a 2400g to test it against my 6700k running Mojave.

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Yes Intel laptop chips do run cooler than Zen especially when running at their TDP compared to AMD running at their TDP. Even a 9900k when running at the 95w TDP runs around 5-10 degrees lower than a 2700x while running at a higher frequency (4.1Ghz vs 3.8Ghz)

Till AMD releases 7nm chips clock vs clock Intel has the more efficient, cooler and faster processor.
At 95W TDP it is more efficient, cooler, but not faster in ALL instances. That's why out the box, intel/motherboard manufacturers run the i9 out of spec cos it will be hard to justify its cost against the 2700X.

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