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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-07-2019, 06:09 AM - Thread Starter
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[AnandTech] AMD is participating in US DOE new Supercomputer project

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One part technological necessity and one part technological race, the exascale era of supercomputers is about to begin, as orders for the first exaFLOP-capable are now going out. It’s only fitting then that this morning the United States Department of Energy is announcing the contract for their fastest supercomputer yet, the Frontier system, which will be built by Cray and AMD.

Frontier is planned for delivery in 2021, and when it’s activated it will become the second and most powerful of the US DOE’s two planned 2021 exascale systems, with performance expected to reach 1.5 exaFLOPS. The ambitious system won’t come cheaply, however; with a price tag of over 500 million dollars for the system alone – and another 100 million dollars for R&D – Frontier is among the most expensive supercomputers ever ordered by the US Department of Energy.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14302...d-1-5-exaflops

100 cabinets supposedly. If the servers are 4U each, thats still 1200 machines. Although, this number of cabinets should also house the storage, network devices and firewalls.

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This AMD supercomputer will be Cray.

lol. That was a good one

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This AMD supercomputer will be Cray.
Yes, and no.


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Officially, the prime contractor for Frontier will be Cray. But looking at the specifications, you could be excused for thinking it was AMD. Cray for its part is partnering with the chipmaker for the system, and as a result AMD is providing most of the core hardware for the new supercomputer. Designed as a next-generation CPU + accelerator system, with a mix of CPUs and GPUs doing the heavy compute work, AMD will be supplying both the CPUs and GPUs for Frontier. And as the principle processor provider, AMD will also be taking on a lot of the responsibility for developing the software stack as well, with the company working with Cray to develop an enhanced version of their ROCm environment to best extract performance from the massive cluster of CPUs and GPUs.
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On the CPU side of matters, AMD will be supplying a customized next-generation EPYC CPU. AMD has confirmed that it’s going to be using a future generation of their Zen CPU cores, and given the timing of the project, we’re almost certainly looking at a Zen 3 or Zen 4 design here. Just how custom AMD’s CPU is remains to be seen, but their announcement has revealed that Frontier’s CPUs will include new instructions for the optimization of AI and supercomputing workloads.
Seems like the CPU side is purely AMD, while the GPU side would be Cray + AMD. Probably due to the accelerators and the software for it. I would think, they are bundling together those two.

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Meanwhile on the GPU side of matters, AMD and Cray are holding their cards a little closer. Rather than naming any architecture or architectural generation, AMD is only saying that the GPUs are “based on the Radeon Instinct family” and have “yet to be announced.” AMD’s current public roadmap goes out to “Next Gen” in 2020, and with GPU development cycles averaging 2 years, this may be the architecture we see. But with the particular needs for a supercomputer, AMD may have something slightly more bespoke.

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Good ole Department of Energy....is there anything they cannot do?

Be honest, behind the facade of those things, the real priority is just screwing everyone over in the name of obscene profit & delaying any kind of backlash as long as possible. That's the real world.
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They indeed fallowing this path.
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Huge acknowledgement for all at AMD.

Now let's see how they spin this one....
Remember all those calling for AMD to go bankrupt?

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I guess the DoD/NSA don't wanna share their quantum computers just yet.

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And so the debt raises by another 600 million, to be raised day by day to get even higher and never paid off no matter how hard regular people work and feed the never ending overspending of their government/greedy politicians.

I would like to see a plan on how they will use this machine to make it profitable...
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And so the debt raises by another 600 million, to be raised day by day to get even higher and never paid off no matter how hard regular people work and feed the never ending overspending of their government/greedy politicians.

I would like to see a plan on how they will use this machine to make it profitable...
Just for context, 600 million to the U.S. govt is the equivalent of someone who makes $100,000 per year (after taxes) spending 50 cents.


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