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[AnandTech] Intel Details Manufacturing through 2023: 7nm, 7+, 7++, with Next Gen Packaging

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14312...d-technologies

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Back in 2013, Intel envisoned its 10nm to succeed the 14nm by providing 2.7x density, with new technologies such as Self-Aligned Quad Patterning (SAQP), Contact over Active Gate (COAG), Cobolt Interconnects, and new packaging technologies such as EMIB and Foveros. Intel admits that this was an ambitious plan, and the goals were not clearly defined with the teams and it was ultimately overly complex and not managed in an ideal way.

This ended up pushing 10nm out into a later time frame. In this case, Intel pushed 10nm out to 2019 (technically they shipped Cannon Lake in small quantities on 10nm in 2017, however that is nothing more than a curio in the timeline of semiconductors), and filled the gap with 14+ and 14++.

Intels 14+ and 14++ processes extracted more than 20% more performance (from Broadwell to Whiskey Lake) from the process since its inception. As a result, Intel is prepared to not only get ready for future intra-node optimizations, but actually adjust the roadmap to compensate for it. Murthy made it clear that Intel wants to introduce a Moore's Law-like gain at the beginning of a new process, and another similar gain by the end of the process.

Intel has stated that its 10nm product family (beyond Cannon Lake) will start to be available from the middle of this year (2019), with Ice Lake on client platforms (notebooks).

Intel announced that its lead 7nm product (lead = top, or lead = first?) would be its new GPGPU, built on the Xe graphics architecture. Intel has stated that its Xe product stack will feature two different microarchitectures from mobile client up to GPGPU, with one of those architectures called Arctic Sound - technically Intel will launch its first discrete GPU in 2020 according to its press release, however the 7nm GPGPU will be launched in 2021.
Intel has me excited! So glad AMD and the other FABs woke a sleeping giant.
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Cool, enough time to tryout AMD's shiny new offerings before hand.

Think I'll skip 10nm.

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intel puffing there chest right before AMD will launch there new 7nm products that will make Intel look bad.

Road maps are nice and all but intel could make up whatever they want on a road map. I need actually product to be satisfied. This is just damage control.
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Oh, Intel. They have no idea how to not live in a unipolar world. It's kind of funny.

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Oh, Intel. They have no idea how to not live in a unipolar world. It's kind of funny.
They focused on power efficiency after Skylake. Now they have competition they can focus on performance again.

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They focused on power efficiency after Skylake. Now they have competition they can focus on performance again.
Sounds like a positive future for enthusiasts.


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Sounds like just a lot of hopefulness from Intel with no details grounded in reality. Make up fancy roadmaps and promises all you want, but lets not forget that the roadmaps have been completely revised and process nodes pushed back years and years already. All data is still showing 10nm isnt ready for prime time and is still only capable of mobile processors and very low end desktop stuff. Yet Intel likes to claim things are still unicorns and rainbows for them with 10nm on track and shipping. LOL Investor Day from Intel is just PR on overdrive, nothing real. They will give excuses next year why "such and such had issues and unfortunately were not able to meet projections" as they have done the last few years straight.

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The biggest thing I am reading in this is that Intel admits there is a problem. You cant fix something unless you recognise it.

The rest sounds great, but intel is renowned for blowing hot air. They need to deliver on some of those objectives to regain a lot of lost credibility.

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