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post #41 of 48 (permalink) Old 05-24-2019, 08:08 AM
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I am totally ignorant about this situation (really don't care) but I think, as a US citizen, I would rather have a device with a backdoor for the Chinese government than the ones with backdoors for the US government.

You should care, this subject is way bigger than the here and now. Iterate on that thought of yours some more and see how that goes for your grandchildren.

How about no backdoors from either side?

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Arm is owned by SoftBank now, which is a Japanese company.


Edit: Now they also can't use microSD cards anymore:

[WCCFTech] Huawei Can No Longer Use microSD Cards in Its Devices as SD Association Removes Company’s Name From Its List

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You should care, this subject is way bigger than the here and now. Iterate on that thought of yours some more and see how that goes for your grandchildren.

How about no backdoors from either side?
That would be ideal, but it isn't going to happen. I won't be having any grandchildren (the world has enough people in it) I'm sure it won't be an issue for them. Besides, what good does it do you worry about the bear on the other side of the river when there is a wolf right in front of you.

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I'm just wondering
Has anyone do some testing with a Huawei phone? I own one right now but didn't seem to care if the data gets leak out.

I'm always hearing researchers talking about leaks and exploits but what about people here or at XDA.
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I'm just wondering
Has anyone do some testing with a Huawei phone? I own one right now but didn't seem to care if the data gets leak out.

I'm always hearing researchers talking about leaks and exploits but what about people here or at XDA.
All Chinese phones have vendor/third-party spyware preloaded and buried deep down. But I doubt the hardware itself somehow phones home, it shouldn't be hard to test with AOSP.

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All Chinese phones have vendor/third-party spyware preloaded and buried deep down. But I doubt the hardware itself somehow phones home, it shouldn't be hard to test with AOSP.
It's been proven multiple times that both Apple and Google actively cooperate with the NSA (Google and Facebook were even born at DARPA and staffed with DARPA managers) so this criticism of Huawei is entirely hypocritical. I am not condoning Huawei spying on its users, it simply shouldn't happen but to single out Huawei, while the Western world have become far worse than 1984 is disgusting.

It seems the ban on Huawei isn't working out too well. The SD, WIFI and a few other foundations have resumed their licensing with Huawei.

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I own two Huawei phones & my wife owns one. The second one I just bought because I figured I should get it while the getting's good so to speak. Besides, the price was right & if they do ban the devices, it'll be on new products, making existing product's see a potential price increase.

Either way, Huawei phones trounce the crap out of Samsung & Apple in terms of performance & battery life, not to mention materials: aluminum frames on the Huawei's vs plastic for Samsung & Apple (I think they are plastic anyway, they sure were "bendy" last time I handled one).

I doubt that Huawei is "spying on me" through the phone, especially because everything that I don't use I either uninstall or disable. I'm more concerned with the fact that my wife uses Facebook messenger because her sister & friends do, which is about as secure as sending an SMS message, maybe even less so.

As far as the comment by The Robot: "All Chinese phones have vendor/third-party spyware preloaded and buried deep down." I would add that so do Samsung & Apple devices & depending on if you purchased your phone through your wireless carrier & which carrier that is, the practice is industry-wide.

The ban on Huawei is nothing more than monopolistic manufacturer's using their influence & market share to reduce competition by keeping superior products which aren't ridiculously overpriced out of consumer's hands & off their radar. As far as the US Government banning Huawei devices, consider this: remember the Furby? That creepy ******* doll or whatever the hell it was? Well the CIA had them banned from their offices because Furby could record audio & it was assumed to have the potential transmit it as well.

As far as I'm concerned, the US Government is skeptical of any product which they deem might be a potential threat/means of doing the same thing they do themselves. If it ain't sanctioned, contracted, or carried out by a company HQ'd in America or one of Her allies: No way, Jose! Only Uncle Sam, Big Brother & govt approved companies are allowed to spy on civilians without their knowledge or consent, Fourth Amendment & right to a reasonable expectation of privacy be damned.

Now none of this applies, of course, to information which people freely give out through social media & other "public" means. That is all fair game... Wait, that includes public forums such as Overclock.net, doesn't it? Oh, crap. We're screwed!
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AMD isn't licensing Zen 2 tech:

[TH] China Loses Zen: AMD Halts Technology Transfers of x86 IP

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AMD CEO Lisa Su confirmed to Tom's Hardware at Computex 2019 that the company isn't licensing further chip designs to its China-backed joint venture. That means that AMD's chip-producing joint venture in China will be confined to the Zen architecture that debuted in first-gen Ryzen and EPYC Milan processors, but will not move forward with designs based on AMD's new Zen 2 microarchitecture that powers the third-gen Ryzen and EPYC Rome processors.

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