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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Lisa Su already announced it's not GCN. It even shows it in the slide in the article. The new architecture is RDNA. Looks promising and similar to TeraScale.

They are finally splitting their compute cards GCN architecture and RDNA. Lisa Su also mentioned we'll see much more of GCN in the upcoming months since it will continue to be used for HPC.

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https://youtu.be/jy0Q75xCwDU
well, my bad.... I did not see any video actually since I'm #cough!# at work but ok, let's see if this is raja's inheritance of a new or completely new microarch and were it will end up....antoher thing is how this will manage ray tracing content that will end up in mainstream in a year or two....

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Well my 5770 was a good card.

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Knowing that it's Strange Brigade and that it's meant to compete with RTX 2070 despite being a better title for AMD, I wouldn't expect too much from the Navi cards.

They might be priced more attractively if the rumors are true.

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The rumored price is $500.

AMD’s continued ability to disappoint and underwhelm, even with lowered expectations, surely is something.

With Nvidia’s price gouging and AMD’s incompetence, I fear I might never buy another GPU again.


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The RTX 2070 is based on a 445 mm² chip;
Vega 64 is based on a 495 mm² chip;
Radeon VII is based on a 331 mm² chip and has 16 GB of HBM2, making it much more expensive on that count;

Meanwhile, the RX 5700 is supposed to be around 275mm² (see estimate from pictures of the chip here).

There is the potential that AMD prices this card very competitively. This chip is most probably smaller than Nvidia's TU116, which powers the GTX 1660 Ti, which comes in at 284 mm².

If they price it like the 1660 Ti ($279 base price), but with ~RTX 2070 ($499 base price) performance, that's very good progress and Nvidia will be in a tough spot. Better help the devs crank out some more RTX enabled games to justify the price (or come out with 7nm cards already).


It would be a good move if they priced it like the GTX 970 ($329) to remind Nvidia how cards used to be priced at in other times.

When you break down the chip sizes and pricing, a $329 2070 does not seem farfetched, but actually very possible. It would be the game changer AMD is looking to achieve.

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Well, I hope AMD won't go nGreedia and ask $450-500 for it (the price of 2070), but I have a suspicion they will

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Quote: Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
The RTX 2070 is based on a 445 mm² chip;
Vega 64 is based on a 495 mm² chip;
Radeon VII is based on a 331 mm² chip and has 16 GB of HBM2, making it much more expensive on that count;

Meanwhile, the RX 5700 is supposed to be around 275mm² (see estimate from pictures of the chip here).

There is the potential that AMD prices this card very competitively. This chip is most probably smaller than Nvidia's TU116, which powers the GTX 1660 Ti, which comes in at 284 mm².

If they price it like the 1660 Ti ($279 base price), but with ~RTX 2070 ($499 base price) performance, that's very good progress and Nvidia will be in a tough spot. Better help the devs crank out some more RTX enabled games to justify the price (or come out with 7nm cards already).


It would be a good move if they priced it like the GTX 970 ($329) to remind Nvidia how cards used to be priced at in other times.
I hope they come in cheap, but let's be honest, even if outright spanks the 2070, Nvidia could always release a 7nm version of Turing.

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Well, I hope AMD won't go nGreedia and ask $450-500 for it (the price of 2070), but I have a suspicion they will
They are in for a rude awakening if they think the GPU they showed at Computex can be sold for $450-500, because Strange Brigade +10% (what they showed at Computex for the comparison) would put it well below the 2070 in other games and only on par with the Vega 64, which is going for like 350€ here now.

It would be in AMDs best interested if that card they showed was a small 329$ mainstream part because that is what it looks like for me.

The things they said about Navi sounded good at Computex, but now they have to show that they mean it and not release products that have the same horrible Price/Performance that the horrible horrible horrible Nvidia RTX series has.



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They are in for a rude awakening if they think the GPU they showed at Computex can be sold for $450-500, because Strange Brigade +10% (what they showed at Computex for the comparison) would put it well below the 2070 in other games and only on par with the Vega 64, which is going for like 350€ here now.

It would be in AMDs best interested if that card they showed was a small 329$ mainstream part because that is what it looks like for me.

The things they said about Navi sounded good at Computex, but now they have to show that they mean it and not release products that have the same horrible Price/Performance that the horrible horrible horrible Nvidia RTX series has.
they should put it right up against GTX 1660 Ti, that would pull Nvidia down it's high horse.

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When you break down the chip sizes and pricing, a $329 2070 does not seem farfetched, but actually very possible. It would be the game changer AMD is looking to achieve.
Could be. But it also depends on how much leeway nvidia have and reduce the prices of the cards. If they can take 100$ off the 2070, it would put a small dent on AMD navi sales.


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