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post #281 of 337 (permalink) Old 06-12-2019, 01:44 AM
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Im aware crossfire is unpopular but can this be crossfired?

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To be absolutely technically correct, you're not training anything with the card you're rendering the game with.

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with all the hate towards the 5700xt get around I should be able to pick one up on day 1
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"I wanted moar for less price, I'll buy nvidia"

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I had 1080Ti Blower and I really liked the idea of dumping the hot air outside the case, but the noise was not so great.
Why there is no Big Blower AIB cards? like same dimensions as 2.5/3 slot AIB cards but with Big blower fan for slower RPM and big heatsinks? We could get Low Temps and Lower noise the those 3 Fan cards that spin at 3000~4000RPM because of recycling the hot air surrounding the card.
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If, performance-wise:
5700XT (~10%)> RTX 2070 (https://www.overclock.net/forum/225-...-e3-event.html)
RTX 2070 (~10%)> GTX 1080 (https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...080/4029vs3603)

Then paying $450 USD is just not worth it for me.
That translates into $21 for each % of performance gain.

If I could sell my GTX 1080 for $350 USD and buy the 5700XT for $450 USD, my net cost would be $100.
That translates into $4.8 for each % of performance gain.

Or I could wait another year and buy a new card that gives me double the performance of the GTX 1080 for $550 USD?
That translates into $5.5 for each % of performance gain.

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Interesting to see if we could use 5700XT 50th Anniversary Bios on the RX 5700 and get great value from 380$.
Did same with RX 470 Nitro with RX 580 Nitro bios, worked great.
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Im aware crossfire is unpopular but can this be crossfired?
Most likely yes. AMD don't need special connectors to crossfire, and it is done via drivers.

But since AMD never support crossfire via windowed mode, in DX12 (which forces windowed mode), crossfire doesn't work and AMD don't support it there, so you are limited to DX12 multi GPU support and developer support, which is well, sketchy, since most developers stopped caring about multi GPU setups as well.

This is also similar to SLI, but since SLI can work in windowed mode, you can force multi GPU rendering via nvidia drivers and game profiles to have some benefit of SLI when playing DX12 games.

But for DX11, as long as there is a profile, you can run crossfire.



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Consoles will use the next Navi in a custom design with more features. At a later date.
Still HDMI2.1 missing on Turing was disappointing but now later on Navi it's missing too? Come on. I get the lack of DP2.0 since it's nowhere seen yet anyway but they really should start adding these onto GPUs.
We only get DP1.4 DSC which I'm not sure but I guess it was optional in the 1.4 specs then if it's missing on previous GPUs.

Navi 10, no HDMI2.1, no DP2.0, no hardware RT, no variable rate shading, ... is there USB C? No?

Maybe if they drop the price by 100 they will sell some.

Vega64/1080 second hand are cheaper. 1080Ti used is not far off but hard to get.

Navi 10 seems a replacement of Polaris 10 but at double the price... no competing on value really. Gotta first sell all that left over stock likely too. Same move Nvidia did with Turing and because they can due to almost complete dominance of the market.

Are owners of Polaris and low end Nvidia cards gonna upgrade to Navi 10? Nope, not at these high prices, if they wanted to they already did long ago as there are plenty GPUs in this high price bracket.
I hate to repeat myself but... but all companies involved (amd, intel, NV) won't be doing squat worth a damn in the gaming space until after the consoles drop.

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All I have to say is if you buy this day one please use your credit card price protection.

I feel bad for people that bought RX 590 at launch , it tanked from $280 to $200ish (as expected). This is repeating that mistake.

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I feel like they are following LG's OLED pricing model. Start them high with limited availability then let the prices drop when stock gets better.

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