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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-27-2019, 09:27 PM - Thread Starter
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Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14405...cs-performance

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When comparing to an equivalent AMD product, Intel stated that it was almost impossible to find one of AMD’s latest 15W APUs actually running at 15W in a device – they stated that every device they could find was actually running one of AMD’s higher performance modes. To make the test fair, Intel pushed one of its Ice Lake-U processors to the equivalent of a 25W TDP and did a direct comparison. This is essentially AMD’s Vega 10 vs Intel’s Gen 11.

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lpddr4x? and such at high frequency too.


I wonder what device they used to actually push that 25w given most ultrabook cooling is beyond garbage. NUC?

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lpddr4x? and such at high frequency too.


I wonder what device they used to actually push that 25w given most ultrabook cooling is beyond garbage. NUC?
Yeah and they tested the AMD system in single channel memory mode. The only 8GB AMD systems available are single channel. So super high clocked memory for the Intel system in dual channel mode and slow single channel memory for the AMD system. People give AMD a lot of flakk over their "misleading" performance charts but Intel takes it to a whole new level. This test was a joke.

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With that Ram frequency the Vega would performer better:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12621...-2400g-ryzen/3

It;s nice they are advancing but AMD has no problem delivering much faster APU with 7nm chiplets.
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Yeah and they tested the AMD system in single channel memory mode. The only 8GB AMD systems available are single channel. So super high clocked memory for the Intel system in dual channel mode and slow single channel memory for the AMD system. People give AMD a lot of flakk over their "misleading" performance charts but Intel takes it to a whole new level. This test was a joke.
LPDDR4 3733 vs 2400 on AMD

That's just silly.

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LPDDR4 3733 vs 2400 on AMD

That's just silly.
No one is preventing AMD from adding LPDDR4X support for their APUs.
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It sounds like Intel is trying to make every excuse possible to show why they used a 25w TDP setup, when in reality they are only going with that not because of some reason on the AMD side but because their top performing IceLake chip is a 25w TDP design. Intel has 25w, 15w, and 9w parts. When you drop down from there they make heavy cuts to the graphics capability because you no longer get Iris Plus graphics when you dont use the top model.
Then on top of it all, Intel is probably using their 25w TDP model, which is only 25w when at base speed. Yet it runs turbo boost and draws more than that.

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and on another article they give more info about what this 25w chip used in the AMD comparison test is:
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Intel also provided a series of gaming benchmarks pitting the Vega-powered 25W Ryzen 7 3700U against a pre-production 25W Ice Lake processor. Intel declined to specify if this processor will come to market
So ya, Intel is completely BSing the test again like usual.


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No one is preventing AMD from adding LPDDR4X support for their APUs.
Intel may not have prevented AMD from doing that but they did prevent AMD from getting a fair enough representation by omitting the use of Dual Channel Memory. That AMD APU is only in single channel mode. Not sure if you've ever used an APU before but the #1 thing is to ensure your memory bandwidth is as high as possible. Cutting the AMD memory bandwidth in half and then declaring victory is not that different from what Tanya Harding did to Nancy Kerrigan (took out one of her legs so that she could win a skating competition).

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Intel may not have prevented AMD from doing that but they did prevent AMD from getting a fair enough representation by omitting the use of Dual Channel Memory. That AMD APU is only in single channel mode. Not sure if you've ever used an APU before but the #1 thing is to ensure your memory bandwidth is as high as possible. Cutting the AMD memory bandwidth in half and then declaring victory is not that different from what Tanya Harding did to Nancy Kerrigan (took out one of her legs so that she could win a skating competition).
AMD APU was using dual channel.

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