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post #1 of 67 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 07:17 AM - Thread Starter
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[Tom's Hardware] Chips, 10nm Ice Lake, 18% IPC Improvement, Sunny Cove Cores, Gen11 Graphics, Thunderbolt 3

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/in...b-c,39477.html

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Ice Lake's headline feature is an 18% increase in average instruction per cycle (IPC) throughput compared to the aging Skylake architecture, but the gains are even higher in some applications, with peaks in the 30 to 40% range for some types of workloads (albeit lower gains in others).

The boosted performance comes courtesy of Intel's new Sunny Cove cores and is a needed addition to help fight off the resurgent AMD, which recently touted a 15% improvement in IPC with its Zen microarchitecture on the 7nm process. AMD claims that its new third-gen Ryzen products have exceeded Intel's Skylake single-core performance, long the hallmark of Intel's dominating performance, albeit by small 1 to 3% margins. Given Intel's large step forward, it looks like the Ice Lake chips can restore Intel's performance lead.
Can't wait for Sunny Cove for desktop next year.
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So... AMD might not totally destroy Intel in the upcoming years?

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I'm skeptical, intel's own slides show steady ipc improvement since skylake, which we all know is patently false. Intel has claimed added cores as ipc improvement before. Furthermore, this is for their atom and other low power architectures, not their high end desktops. those architectures arn't really the same as their core structure anyway.

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These are all low wattage small 4 core mobile parts. While its finally good for intel to get 10nm out the gate, high perfomance desktop parts will be awhile yet.

By time intel gets them ready for high end desktop I imagine amd will be ready for there refresh of zen 2. Intel will have to be ready to deal with that.

Competition is finally taking hold but its safe to safe intel will be loosing the high end enthusiast desktop space for the next 1-2 years till they can come swinging back. Hopefully in this time AMD as well can plan there next move carefully for zen 3 and there zen2 refresh.

If AMD is already out selling intel 1 to 2 it will probably move to 1 to 3. As we see even more mid range and high end gaming pc move over to AMD.

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Quote: Originally Posted by azanimefan View Post
I'm skeptical, intel's own slides show steady ipc improvement since skylake, which we all know is patently false. Intel has claimed added cores as ipc improvement before. Furthermore, this is for their atom and other low power architectures, not their high end desktops. those architectures arn't really the same as their core structure anyway.
This is regarding their new 10th gen Core processors. Sunny Cove cores are used in Ice Lake-U which is out in Q4. I don't see them delaying these chips for desktop all the way until 2022 with Willow Grove. Just like they did with Broadwell which was also a node transition.
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Well, let's wait to see the price, availability, stability and heat characteristics from these LONG overdue parts. Given all the time they've been wasting on these chips, it's amazing that they've only been able to muster 18% (if they actually have that).

Weird that they went to the portable sector first. Must mean that they're still having problem with performance parts.

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These are all low wattage small 4 core mobile parts. While its finally good for intel to get 10nm out the gate, high perfomance desktop parts will be awhile yet.

By time intel gets them ready for high end desktop I imagine amd will be ready for there refresh of zen 2. Intel will have to be ready to deal with that.

Competition is finally taking hold but its safe to safe intel will be loosing the high end enthusiast desktop space for the next 1-2 years till they can come swinging back. Hopefully in this time AMD as well can plan there next move carefully for zen 3 and there zen2 refresh.

If AMD is already out selling intel 1 to 2 it will probably move to 1 to 3. As we see even more mid range and high end gaming pc move over to AMD.
Intel may lose the high end e enthusiast desktop space in cinebench. But as for gaming I'll believe it when I see it.
Also I imagine these will run hot. Seems like the more calculations per sec a CPU does, the hotter it gets.

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New mobile CPUs are always welcome. There IPC is not as important as total efficiency. Battery life, heat and noise are the most critical areas to improve first. If there is i.e. a +2-4 hours more battery life with a totallly silent cooling system at the same performance, this would be worth gold! Even better in case this Notebook is going to be faster!

With new potential types of Ultrabooks, Intel can maybe win a big chunk of the mobile market and hold them for years. I am still waiting for anything worthwhile from AMD Ryzen mobile line-up.
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