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[AnandTech] Intel's Project Athena: Defining The Next Generation Of Premium Laptops

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14444...ext-gen-laptop

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Past that, the final leg of the Athena 1.0 specification is form factors. Notably, all Athena devices need to have touchscreens with narrow bezels. They don't need to be 2-in-1s – though I'm sure Intel would be happy if they were – so clamshells are also a valid option here, but even in that case they still need to include touch-focused functionality such as pen support. Intel will also be allowing a pretty typical range of sizes for Athena machines, from 12 inches up to 15 inches. This essentially covers most of the market, excluding just the tiniest PCs and 17-inch behemoths, which tend to be closer to desktop replacement-class machines anyhow.

Meanwhile, because Intel is setting the standards for Athena laptops, they'll also be the body enforcing those requirements. OEMs who choose to participate in the Athena program will receive extremely valuable engineering and marketing support from Intel. However in turn they'll have to meet Intel's testing requirements, which will be looking at battery life as well as responsiveness in various applications.

Even with these requirements, OEMs have been quick to jump onboard. Over 100 companies are involved, and Intel bought partners onto the stage to discuss designs, such as the Lenovo Yoga S940, the Acer Swift 5 which aims to be the lightest 10th Gen system when launched, and a HP system with a wooden arm rest. We expect to see more designs through the Computex show.
Love when devices get standards, wish AMD would push standards with their FreeSync instead of a weird cluster of fake HDR panels.
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Love when devices get standards, wish AMD would push standards with their FreeSync instead of a weird cluster of fake HDR panels.
Really? I prefer free open standards that everyone can utilize over closed proprietary standards behind a paywall.

Also, freesync is a VRR method, not a bit color depth standard unless I'm mistaken here.


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Really? I prefer free open standards that everyone can utilize over closed proprietary standards behind a paywall.

Also, freesync is a VRR method, not a bit color depth standard unless I'm mistaken here.
Do you think AMD slaps on FreeSync on any monitor? They have to pass AMD's testing which fit their Adaptive Sync support range, luminance / brightness, color range. It's still a mess of a cluster when trying to pick a FreeSync monitor currently even with their more strict requirements to receive a FreeSync 2 HDR certified sticker. When I think of HDR I think of a monitors with 1000 nit brightness not 400 which most of the monitors with FreeSync 2 HDR certifications are.

If it wasn't for this website I wouldn't have bought a FreeSync monitor: https://www.amd.com/en/products/freesync-monitors
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Do you think AMD slaps on FreeSync on any monitor? They have to pass AMD's testing which fit their Adaptive Sync support range, luminance / brightness, color range. It's still a mess of a cluster when trying to pick a FreeSync monitor currently even with their more strict requirements to receive a FreeSync 2 HDR certified sticker. When I think of HDR I think of a monitors with 1000 nit brightness not 400 which most of the monitors with FreeSync 2 HDR certifications are.

If it wasn't for this website I wouldn't have bought a FreeSync monitor: https://www.amd.com/en/products/freesync-monitors
Honestly, I have no idea. I just kinda assumed freesync was basically an algorithm that monitor manufacturers could use in their firmware to communicate with AMD gpu's essentially giving the GPU's the ability to change the monitor refresh rate within a certain range. Since it's open source Nvidia is able to tweak their drivers to take advantage of the embedded algorithm on said monitors as well. Since the code is designed to be universal, it limits the range of the VRR unlike Nvidia's solution that is hardware based giving it a much larger range of VRR.

Don't wanna drag this off topic, but that's the gist of it isn't it?



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Honestly, I have no idea. I just kinda assumed freesync was basically an algorithm that monitor manufacturers could use in their firmware to communicate with AMD gpu's essentially giving the GPU's the ability to change the monitor refresh rate within a certain range. Since it's open source Nvidia is able to tweak their drivers to take advantage of the embedded algorithm on said monitors as well. Since the code is designed to be universal, it limits the range of the VRR unlike Nvidia's solution that is hardware based giving it a much larger range of VRR.

Don't wanna drag this off topic, but that's the gist of it isn't it?
That's exactly what AMD proposed to Vesa which was adopted and called Vesa Adaptive Sync. While FreeSync, QSync, GSync(GSync Compatible monitors) and what ever Intel is planning to call their Sync technology are closed source that have their own unique hardware/software solution that utilizes Adaptive-Sync protocols. Before those monitors receive a FreeSync badge they have to pass AMD's low standards.

You can read more about the benefits of FreeSync 2 HDR here:

https://gpuopen.com/using-amd-freesy...-tone-mapping/
https://gpuopen.com/using-amd-freesy...-color-spaces/

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Hopefully they standardize the Type C ports on these Athena Windows laptops. Sick of trying to look to find out which port has which features. It's one of the convenient things about owning a Mac. Every single Type C port has the same features aside from charging.

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There are a lot of really crappy laptops out there, and thats what pushes people who pay little attention to computers towards apple. With apple at least you know you are getting a quality product (though one should be smart enough to figure if you spent that much on a windows PC it would also be high quality but hey, apple people). That's why Microsoft started making the Surface products. They saw that manufacturers were generally falling flat in designing anything consistently good and recognizable. Looks like Intel is trying to adopt that same logic under their own brand. Can't say I blame them, with 90% of all the computers out there being made for windows and most of those using Intel chips, it's in their interest to do a little QA on the computer design industry.

It will be funny if any manufacturers design something that passes and then take that same design and swap it to an AMD chip.

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