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Hurr durr I don't actually know what the other person is saying nor do I have any real refutation but I don't like confusing big boy talk to I'm going to fall back on logical fallacy and personal attacks and hope people think I sound cool.



(Did I get that right? I'm not quite versed in this brave new form of debate)
my previous points were entirely ignored by you, except in a passive/aggressive manner - so since you already showed a small lack of reading comprehension - where keywords need pointed out, i figured i could try communicating on YOUR level.

silly me, since you are avoiding any direct reply anyhow, i shouldn't have bothered.

oh dear you did do a late edit (cute):
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i shouldn't be amazed because every thread -snip- always has somebody ranting and talking silly stuff.
Fixed that for you.

To be fair, I haven't heard any ranting, just having some water cooler conversation here and spit balling ideas. What's wrong with that?


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Fixed that for you.

To be fair, I haven't heard any ranting, just having some water cooler conversation here and spit balling ideas. What's wrong with that?
maybe discuss the actual topic? maybe give the OP another look or better yet, read the linked article?

or is this, "it's a public forum and i have a right to speak" issue?

complaining about the ATX power specifications, though as old as IBM but does get REVISED . . . is the topic?

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To add more power to PCIE as a standard (through current or new connector) will require to update the motherboard power deliver standard.
You can't just add more power without revision of how that power comes in.

Else you will have motherboards that either do not support that standard at all, so they are not PCIE compliant, or have two standards which will just be confusing when choosing motherboards. And you will have cards that do support and compliant with the new standard, and those that do not. Which will also confuse the hell out of people.

A revision to power delivery within motherboards, will also mean a revision of the ATX power supplies, make some connectors standard on motherboards to deliver more power, etc etc.

This is not easy as "just slap something on it and call it a day". And considering PCI-SIG are not doing full and complete revisions of all hardware standards, I doubt this is going to happen any time soon.


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Redesigning the PCIe socket just to double the power delivery seems like a huge waste of time and money. The only cards in need of extra power are GPUs and the external 6 and 8 pin seem to do the work just fine.

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Nice. I wonder what the timing for implementing this on consumer boards will be, what kind of market and consumer pressure there will be to make it sooner or later. In any case, no sooner than 2021 I'd say, but probably later than that.



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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
maybe discuss the actual topic? maybe give the OP another look or better yet, read the linked article?

or is this, "it's a public forum and i have a right to speak" issue?

complaining about the ATX power specifications, though as old as IBM but does get REVISED . . . is the topic?
We are discussing the topic.... Just not in a manner that you find satisfactory it would seem.

Feel free to go back to yelling at the boys for not being dapper enough and girls for exposing their ankles when school gets out.


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We are discussing the topic.... Just not in a manner that you find satisfactory it would seem.

Feel free to go back to yelling at the boys for not being dapper enough and girls for exposing their ankles when school gets out.
the topic has nothing to do with the ATX spec for power supplied to the pci slot.

get a clue:
PCIe_CEM_4_0_Previews.pdf

electrical is talking about data transmission NOT power (12/3.3v). maybe you need to read about PCI Express®Electrical Basics

or maybe go back to talking about saturday morning cartoons.

E: here you go, the complete unabridged pci-4e 4.0 specs. (saved it! costs a few thousand if your not a PCI-SIG member!)

not a word about 12v/3.3v . . so get off my lawn.

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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
the topic has nothing to do with the ATX spec for power supplied to the pci slot.

get a clue:
Attachment 272642

electrical is talking about data transmission NOT power (12/3.3v). maybe you need to read about PCI Express®Electrical Basics

or maybe go back to talking about saturday morning cartoons.

E: here you go, the complete unabridged pci-4e 4.0 specs. (saved it! costs a few thousand if your not a PCI-SIG member!)

not a word about 12v/3.3v . . so get off my lawn.

cool! Definitely gonna give it a read.


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