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post #21 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-07-2019, 09:25 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out why there aren't any 2.5 mm drives that are bigger than 5TB. I want portable drives with bigger capacities so you can just plug and play them without needing a DC power. Why is this not being made?

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I'm still trying to figure out why there aren't any 2.5 mm drives that are bigger than 5TB. I want portable drives with bigger capacities so you can just plug and play them without needing a DC power. Why is this not being made?
Probably because they're smaller and there isn't enough volume to fit all that data. Given how much they're able to cram 5 TB into such a small form factor, I'd be asking the opposite question: Where's my 30TB 3.5". hard drive?

Btw, there are 2.5 in. SSDs that have more than 5TB. But obviously a different price point.
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HDD prices still too high. The TB/$ has not improved at all.
Sure it has. The sweet spot is never at the top of the capacity stack though. Taking the X300 series as an example, you can get disks from 4 to 14 TB. The 4 TB disk is 26.25/TB and the 14 TB disk is 37.14/TB. The sweet spot here is the 6 TB disk at 25/TB. The 150 dollar price point is usually about where the best value is had, and such is the case here as well.

The progress isn't fast, but it's there. A few years ago, a 5 TB disk was about $5/TB more expensive. A couple years before that a 5 TB disk was about $50/TB.

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i remember the previous sweet spot was at 3TB too.

on the note of these HDDs though, can it survive a RAID rebuild? 16TB for each drive would take a massive amount of time.

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yeah i know, the Exos would probably survive a week of non-stop rebuild, but i'd be worried about the IronWolf.

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And here I was hoping for 16TB SSDs. All these large HDDs are quite expensive per capacity compared to smaller capacity HDDs.
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...16TB SSDs...


Actually, they do exist but they are enterprise (aka absurdly expensive) and SAS instead of SATA.

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And here I was hoping for 16TB SSDs. All these large HDDs are quite expensive per capacity compared to smaller capacity HDDs.

If you dont mind waiting for a sale (happens every few months) and shucking the drive then you can get WD 10TB's for $0.016/GB.

Otherwise 12TB drives are $0.030/GB, 14TB drives are $0.035, and 16TB drives are $0.036. These prices are better than 1-2TB HDDs, which have the worst price per gigabyte. 6TB is really the only size that dips below 3 cents per gigabyte, unless you go with the 8-10TBs when they are on sale which are the best value by far.


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Not needing more than one SATA port and space for more than one drive is another advantage.
Can think of it as my solution being cheaper and with redundancy, lol, and significantly faster rebuild times

The biggest advantage I see is the space and power, the number of ports it kind of moot to me to be honest.

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