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[Tom's Hardware] Thermalright Dips Foot Into AIO Liquid Cooling

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/th...0-c,39410.html

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Thermalright, a long time air cooling specialist, has finally bitten the bullet and ventured into the AIO (all-in-one) liquid cooling realm. The company recently announced its Turbo Right 240 C and Turbo Right 360 C liquid coolers.

The new Turbo Right liquid cooling systems employ Thermalright's own Turbo Right CPU copper waterblock that employs 0.1mm microchannels with a large contact area for optimum liquid flow. The Turbo Right pump has been placed on the outside of the waterblock which, according to Thermalright, helps reduce vibrations and stress on the processor and motherboard. The waterblock has a transparent window where you can gaze at the rotating blade, liquid flow, coolant level and incorporated RGB lighting.

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Hopefully they don't go crazy with the RGB. I like that it has a fill port that you can actually use, which opens up the possibility of some end-user maintenance options. Al radiator I presume? That sucks. Hopefully they come out with a 140/280/420 using TY-143SQ fans. THAT I would buy.

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. Al radiator I presume? That sucks.
Nope, looks like a copper radiator, same OEM as the Magicool G2's.

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I wonder if they have to pay the Asetek royalty for this? It looks like it but they are also saying the pump is outside of the water block ... whatever that means.
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That's great if true.
As far as I know, there isn't any other radiator that uses that end tank design, so I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Melcar View Post
Hopefully they don't go full retard with the RGB. I like that it has a fill port that you can actually use, which opens up the possibility of some end-user maintenance options. Al radiator I presume? That sucks. Hopefully they come out with a 140/280/420 using TY-143SQ fans. THAT I would buy.
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It's not like it's up to them. The people that want a CLC likely only want it as a platform for RGB delivery, that and becasue getting a cheap CLC makes you an elite water cooler.
The handful that actually want performance isn't a large enough market to pander to, they'd probably be better off making it as gaudy as possible. You're dealing with a market that doesn't really care about performance or noise first, obviously many of us do but we cost a lot more to satisfy...or you can make it look like a ricer and sell as many as you can make.

I'm glad TR is trying something but it's sad that they can't stand on their own making air coolers anymore, I'm sure at the same noise their air coolers will still be on par with their CLCs, it would be really hard to make a CLC that's truly better than the True Spirit 140 Power.

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It's not like it's up to them. The people that want a CLC likely only want it as a platform for RGB delivery, that and becasue getting a cheap CLC makes you an elite water cooler.
The handful that actually want performance isn't a large enough market to pander to, they'd probably be better off making it as gaudy as possible. You're dealing with a market that doesn't really care about performance or noise first, obviously many of us do but we cost a lot more to satisfy...or you can make it look like a ricer and sell as many as you can make.

I'm glad TR is trying something but it's sad that they can't stand on their own making air coolers anymore, I'm sure at the same noise their air coolers will still be on par with their CLCs, it would be really hard to make a CLC that's truly better than the True Spirit 140 Power.
You know that this isn't a CLC right? Its a refillable and technically expandable AIO, although no specs on the pump yet so I'm not sure how much headroom there is for expandability.

The copper radiator should give it an edge over most CLC's as well.

They seem to have gone out of their way to make an attempt at a decent product, rather than be lazy and slap their name on Asetek junk like most others.
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If they can price it <$200 they might be able to sell it. Copper radiator and copper CPU block isn't a standout anymore , its been done cheaply.

Right now the top contender in the AIO market is the Swiftech Drive x3 (~6W MCP pump) , with the Alphacool Eisbaer second (DC-LT pump). The~ $300 EKWB MLC Phoenix is too expensive as an AIO (despite using a 6W SPC pump) and caters to people that are lazy to fill a watercooling loop and just want something that has EK on it, essentially. Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme has the VPP75 in-house D5 pump so I don't think it is reliable and the size is a constraint as well.

The biggest problem besides availability with the Swiftech AIO is size since the reservoir takes up a lot of space under the radiator to the point it extends 90mm thickness off the top of the radiator: http://www.swiftech.com/drive-x3-aio.aspx

There's a larger gap in performance from a $40-50 decent air cooler such as the Thermalright Macho series or Scythe Mugen 5 to copper radiator of 240mm size or greater only if the pump is stronger than 6W (EKWB's lower end kits all use SPC-60 PWM which is a 6W pump). So realistically you're looking at similar performance from a $50 air cooler to a $150 AIO with 240mm radiator unless you upgrade the pump to a D5 and add a copper radiator, which pushes you closer to $350. For example, the Drive x3 280 or 360 kit is around $160, Eisbaer (or LT) is around $150 for 240/280/360 radiator.

At its core, what you have is a $50-70ish MSRP CPU block , $50-70 MSRP radiator, $30-150 pump+reservoir (most of the cost comes from here), and $30-50 in fittings/fluid/tubing. Fans usually are cheap unless it's a higher end unit ; you can get Arctic P12 for example for <$5 each.


From thread on OCN: https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...rmalright.html
There's speculation that it is a Raijintek Orcus rebrand with their fans. This means a 2W 5000RPM pump, so don't expect amazing things. 66 L/h max flow rate is in line with the DC-LT pump.

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