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post #91 of 172 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 03:51 PM
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I do not run the steam hardware survey. I would if all it checked was hardware, but it also checks everything that is installed on the computer. I see no reason to give them that information.

They stopped doing that years ago. They only collect hardware specs and they show you a list with the exact specs that are going to be sent and leave in your power to click on ok to send or cancel. You'll also notice that the software list on the survey isn't there anymore, except for the OS.

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They stopped doing that years ago. They only collect hardware specs and they show you a list with the exact specs that are going to be sent and leave in your power to click on ok to send or cancel. You'll also notice that the software list on the survey isn't there anymore, except for the OS.
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its just easier to click no... Though I suppose an argument could be made that I'm screwing myself as an SLI user by not making it known to the Gaming Gods that I am one.

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They stopped doing that years ago. They only collect hardware specs and they show you a list with the exact specs that are going to be sent and leave in your power to click on ok to send or cancel. You'll also notice that the software list on the survey isn't there anymore, except for the OS.
Thanks, didn't know... I haven't tried to see the survey since then.
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I do not run the steam hardware survey. I would if all it checked was hardware, but it also checks everything that is installed on the computer. I see no reason to give them that information.
Probably neither as it takes them years to show up that survey and then they often want to collect so much info, nah no thanks, you're doing it anyway secretly so why should I give you consent

Steam survey is pretty useless anyway, it changes based on their whims and desires, they add and remove groups of users as they see fit. As in why not cut out Chinese iNet cafes, etc. so they did something like that some time ago which shifted the hardware survey a lot, they also keep inactive machines in the survey and so on. The reality of actual active and used machines is different from the crappy Steam survey. You're better off looking at what and how many GPUs, CPUs sell in last 3 years to users at home.

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its just easier to click no... Though I suppose an argument could be made that I'm screwing myself as an SLI user by not making it known to the Gaming Gods that I am one.
Pretty sure the gaming gods have already decided they don't care about SLI/CF...

Assuming you're running 1080ti's in sli, you're better off just selling them and getting a 2080ti. 2 used 1080ti's just about add up to a new 2080ti as well, so you shouldn't lose money on it.

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Intel still has lower memory latency though.


The numbers they have on that slide (69ns / 67ns) are worse than Ryzen 7 2700X on 3200C14.
My [email protected] with 3200c14 gets 69.1ns with the AGESA 0.0.7.2. Which is a bad AGESA. Maybe they used the wrong AGESA for the slides.

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it's obvious looking at your sig that you are getting defensive as you love your 9900K but the fact is there is something much better than that getting released in September, and even the 3900K 8-core is a better choice -

- Much higher efficiency
- Lower heat
- Cheaper
- On a platform with modern features unavailable to your 9900K

Instead of being salty, embrace the advancement and acknowledge your 9900K is a 14nm relic and a space heater to boot

Haters gonna hate and fanboys always deny the truth.
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It is indeed a 14nm relic. And it does indeed occupy the role of a space heater in colder climates.
But Intel made it, so people will rushed out to buy it regardless.

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I've never even gotten a survey lol
I've been prompted for the steam survey every year since 2012 I believe. I don't know how they choose which users to survey, but it seems strange that you've never had one.
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Haters gonna hate and fanboys always deny the truth.
Skylake v4 is still just the same base product, highly strung with the "impossible" and "entirely pointless" extra cores/threads now made available.
It is indeed a 14nm relic. And it does indeed occupy the role of a space heater in colder climates.
But Intel made it, so people will rushed out to buy it regardless.
Last I checked the 9900k uses less power and runs cooler than the 2700x. The only time it uses more is when it's overclocked to ridiculous frequencies(MCE is overclocking) and last I checked AMD Zen+ can't reach those frequencies. The 9900KS on the other hand will be a 205w part for sure. Until benchmarks of Ryzen's 3000 series is out the 9900K is still the fastest gaming CPU due to it's Ring Bus. The question now will be how much power and heat does the 3800x produce when it's overclocked to 4.7Ghz on all 8 cores? I'm sure a 3800x at 3.9Ghz doesn't keep up with a stock 9900k running at 4.3Ghz when gaming.

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