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Its going to be hilarious if AMD actually does come out ahead in real games as well as synthetic benches.
My guess is it'll be pretty even, with a few games favoring either CPU.

In the long run, it's clear the i9 9900K is a bad mistake from this point(not to say if you had bought it previously it was a bad choice), intel basically said it themselves.

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this is why I replaced my 4930k with a 9700k & cheapest board possible. It's just a hold over until AMD gets their game back (which they've now done, and will improve upon)

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I just went to check the Computex presentation slides (see link below) and AMD didn't state that their CPUs would be the gaming kings though, so Intel is the one putting the conversation forward as far as I can tell.

Anyway, AMD didn't state in their slides what the test configuration was for the gaming improvements of the 3800X over the 2700X, but if we assume it's also at 1080p, there's two games we can more or less compare between Intel and AMD slides, GTA V and PUBG, and the differences are 6.1% and 4.1% respectively in favour of Intel at 1080p. It will probably be close to 0% at 1440p and up and it aligns well with the way they made the initial gaming presentation on Zen 2, the point is that there will be no practical difference.


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Nice cherry picked benchmarks.. They picked the same game 3 times, ran 1080p and half of those titles are really dated. I don't get how they are going to spin this type of argument in a month's time, "Please spend 550$ on our dead end platform instead of the competition's 329$ to gain 5-7% in those cherry picked games and settings".
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kingduqc is right!
And as someone said above, if there is a 2% difference, are people still going to say Intel is the best when they charge a premium for that miniscule gain?

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It all depends on how the CCX layout and Infinity Fabric is setup on Ryzen 3000 series. We already know the IO die is separate.


Either way, I don't see a point in buying a $500 i9 CPU to play something with an ancient engine not using more than 6 to 8 threads when you can get a Ryzen 7 3700X (which will be higher clocked than R7 2700X) or i7-9700k. The i7-9700k in their own lineup doesn't have hyperthreading so it removes one attack vector meaning that any microcode or Windows patching related to hyperthreading is going to affect it far less.

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wasn't intel's last set of benchmarks (9900KS?) w/o OS/bios patches?

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wasn't intel's last set of benchmarks (9900KS?) w/o OS/bios patches?
Yes, and these are even more suspect as absolutely no information was given regarding test setup, methodology, etc.

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kingduqc is right!
And as someone said above, if there is a 2% difference, are people still going to say Intel is the best when they charge a premium for that miniscule gain?
yes, to the point of getting themselves banned.

I'll take whoever's selling the most lanes for the best price, since performance will be so close.

I need at least enough for 2x full speed GPUs & 4x NVMe... so AMD will likely get my cash.

not to mention the fact that CORE is an ancient & dying tech with extreme security flaws, while AMD's arch is basically brand new with many years of polishing & greatness to come. Intel won't be in that boat for another 4-5 years.

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Are they challenging them to a softball game or something? What exactly is real world gaming?

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