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post #81 of 172 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 10:37 AM
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We did that long ago. Real long ago. And UT had horrible input handling in the first place so no way you'd fix that by running low. Not running games on potato helps a lot regardless of time we're in.

I don't know what input latency we're talking about since I'm talking about times when BF3 popular. Back then, only input latency I can remember was from using zowie mice. Switching to logitech fixed that real quick.
Less Load = More resources to use = more frames = less latency = On ANY hardware, unless your frames are running capped maxed 100% of the time.

So example: You're running CSGO, but it's capped to 300fps and you hit 300fps 100%..There's not much incentive to lower anything in this scenario.

Streamers and even professionals still do this today. Usually you want to keep the resolution native but there are benefits from lower, stretched resolutions. (back in the day you could get much higher refresh rates from lower resolutions on CRT monitors)

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Yep...I do this, to this day. Latency > graphics, graphics do not matter if you're playing competitively...The only that matters is winning, which lower latency helps you do.
I meant competitively as in caring about winning or losing, not necessarily being in a competition. I always forget that actual competitive gaming (tournaments) is a thing, still seems new to me even though it isn't.

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Big advantage Intel has right now in gaming is memory performance/latency.


No more
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...n-3950x,4.html
Intel still has lower memory latency though.


The numbers they have on that slide (69ns / 67ns) are worse than Ryzen 7 2700X on 3200C14.

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What I'm curious about is if anyone else is like me n doesn't do Steam Survey, thus your beast machine doesn't go into the metricss.
I do not run the steam hardware survey. I would if all it checked was hardware, but it also checks everything that is installed on the computer. I see no reason to give them that information.
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Are they challenging them to a softball game or something? What exactly is real world gaming?

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I do not run the steam hardware survey. I would if all it checked was hardware, but it also checks everything that is installed on the computer. I see no reason to give them that information.
and this is why their data is skewed.

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I hope the tech press don't let them get a free pass with this horrible power consumption just because it's Intel. The huge lack of efficiency and space heater trait of the 9900KS needs to be highlighted hard just so Intel learn the lesson that they can't try and pull rush-job counter measures like this in a desperate attempt to fight Ryzen 3000.


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I hope the tech press don't let them get a free pass with this horrible power consumption just because it's Intel. The huge lack of efficiency and space heater trait of the 9900KS needs to be highlighted hard just so Intel learn the lesson that they can't try and pull rush-job counter measures like this in a desperate attempt to fight Ryzen 3000.
Those figures are fake, a 9900k w/ 1.3v uses 220w @ 5Ghz running Prime95 AVX. The 9900KS is probably going to be binned at 1.2v or 1.25v. If anything the 3800x will probably use the same amount of power as a 9900KS if it could even touch 5Ghz. I have a feeling the 9900KS will have a TDP of 205w from seeing what a 5Ghz 9900K can pull.
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I do not run the steam hardware survey. I would if all it checked was hardware, but it also checks everything that is installed on the computer. I see no reason to give them that information.
I've never even gotten a survey lol

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