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i'll stick to my used 1080tis & my 2021 purchase plan.

no new interesting hardware until after consoles release. This is more proof.

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Now I understand the nvidia's super.

They are playing AMD's game at with their own tricks.
Like AMD refreshed polaris to match nvidia's hardware, nvidia are doing the same thing to navi.

AMD put their 5700 at 379$ now vs a new 2060 super which cost 249$, 130$ difference, which is significant.
And the 5700 XT at 449$, is now going against a 2070 super which is 399$, which is 50$ cheaper.
And the VII which stays in place at 699$, is going against a now 2080 super at 599$, 100$ cheaper.

If anyone expected competitive pricing from AMD, is going to have a bad day.

Nvidia basically took their thunder, making the so anticipated navi look like a bad deal.

We will have to see if the new features stick, and how much those cards are going to be pushed in OC. But the 5700 XT seems to be taking as much power as the 2080. At 1905mhz, I expect it can be OCed to 2100mhz or so, I wonder how much power limited it is going to be. I expect similar to nvidia.
Lol. RTX 2060 Super for $250, in your dreams. Dont even go there. Just do not. You are setting yourself for huge huge disappointment.

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I'd wait for proper reviews and what aftermarket AIB cards will offer. The RX 5700 non XT looks to be the better buy. Faster than vega 56 while being cheaper by $20 off the msrp. However vega 56 can be found much cheaper now a days new or used. By about $100 or more.

Another thing to take note of is power consumption. 225w for the RX 5700XT. Still on the high side. Seems like clocks push power draw threw the roof. Similar to polaris. An under volt will still be the best option.

Oppose to nvidia. AMD has 8gb of vram where nvidia has better performance per watt and ray tracing. However if the super rumors turns out to be true than AMD is in a bad spot. But for what it's worth everything in 2019 might be a hard skip anyways. Intel will be in the mix by 2020 and nvidia will most likely move on to 7nm regardless.
XT is a better buy. You get 4 more CUs, better-binned GPU, and like Vega you probably get better memory with XT. The Cooler also looks better, and some are saying the PCB has more phases. All this for $70.

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Now I understand the nvidia's super.

They are playing AMD's game at with their own tricks.
Like AMD refreshed polaris to match nvidia's hardware, nvidia are doing the same thing to navi.

AMD put their 5700 at 379$ now vs a new 2060 super which cost 249$, 130$ difference, which is significant.
And the 5700 XT at 449$, is now going against a 2070 super which is 399$, which is 50$ cheaper.
And the VII which stays in place at 699$, is going against a now 2080 super at 599$, 100$ cheaper.

If anyone expected competitive pricing from AMD, is going to have a bad day.

Nvidia basically took their thunder, making the so anticipated navi look like a bad deal.

We will have to see if the new features stick, and how much those cards are going to be pushed in OC. But the 5700 XT seems to be taking as much power as the 2080. At 1905mhz, I expect it can be OCed to 2100mhz or so, I wonder how much power limited it is going to be. I expect similar to nvidia.
Are you serious?

Nvidia is only lowering prices because AMD has the performance to make them. ALL credit to AMD and zero to team Nvious.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post
Are you serious?

Nvidia is only lowering prices because AMD has the performance to make them. ALL credit to AMD and zero to team Nvious.
These 5700 are looking good to me. There is suppose to be aftermarket coolers coming out soon.
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Are you serious?

Nvidia is only lowering prices because AMD has the performance to make them. ALL credit to AMD and zero to team Nvious.
some folks are special and refuse to accept the reality of any situation in life.

AMD has had forward momentum for the last 5-6 years. We all knew this day was coming, along with the decline of CORE, & the hyper inflation of Nvidia products.

Just look, NV stuck @ 14NM, crnking out every possible sku they can to make up for the extreme issues they have producing the current node.

the truth is though, that both AMD and NV are just biding their time until they have to release power houses to compete with the next consoles.

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only ~10% faster than a 2060 in cherry picked games for ~$50 more? kind of disappointing.
I know man, the 5700 at $299 would have been a huge hit. At $379 not so much.

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much excite, many of us have been waiting for this day for almost a decade.

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much excite, many of us have been waiting for this day for almost a decade.
You are not the only one. This card is a breath of fresh air from AMD.
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