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post #81 of 99 (permalink) Old 06-14-2019, 08:40 AM
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Why not use IF to connect the chipset to the CPU? Instead of using pcie Lanes.
Backwards compatibility with X370/X470 probably. The reduced complexity of the IO/chipset dies would make it cheaper to produce as well.

The same can be asked of why Navi can not use IF to link to Ryzen 3 when they use it in Vega II Duo (84GB/s bi-directional link on that one btw).

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Why not use IF to connect the chipset to the CPU? Instead of using pcie Lanes.
for many of the same reasons why dimm slots are so close to the socket; trace length, signal integrity, power and expense.

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So for me I will wait til this coming March and replace 2 parts in Black Snow. CPU and GPU after the reviews have come out and give me better information to base my upgrades on.

R9 3950x 16core CPU and possibly 5700 XT are the parts I am looking at. Stay on the board and keep the RAM.

For me this is not that difficult a decision as I am running 1st Gen Ryzen and just upgraded the MB and RAM this year. I would love 4.0 PCIe but tbh, it's not a necessity to run it as I doubt that I will pick up a 4.0 NVME device any time soon. And I am not using 2nd Gen Ryzen features on a board that takes advantage of them.

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Looks like the ES of 3950Xwas OCed to 4.3Ghz all core with just AIO :-)
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Overclocked result using AIO water cooler on X470 internal reference board. Board has no bus clock tuning capability. Ryzen 9 3950X engineering sample used. Many people (including press members) witnessed 3950X overclocked performance demonstration at AMD Tech Day on June 8th, 2019 World record re-broken in AMD lab to upload result as required by HWBOT rules
How can it match Quad channel memory in memory bandwidth of 7960X on X299 in same frequency?
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i just said it in another thread, whoever sells us the most lanes @ the lowest cost will get many of our $$$$$

why? cuz of the above. We wanna run 1-2 GPUs @ 16x each + 2-4 NVMe @ 4x each... Why? Cuz some of us like to keep a ton of ultra-fast data on our gaming PC & are tired of the now old & tired SATA SSD raid solutions.

not to mention most of us in the above are @ resolutions where 1-2% CPU nonsense means nothing.

Scupps, that is not a standard consumer expectations. You're deep into HEDT territory there. Thankfully AMD has something for you, you just have to double down on that mobo price.


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Thankfully AMD has something for you, you just have to double down on that mobo price.
Honestly, X399 prices aren't much higher than what we're seeing for even just mid range X570 boards.

You can get a ASRock X399 phantom Gaming 6 for less than $250, and that's one of the few boards that can do triple x16.

Combine that with a TR 1900X ($265), and you've got yourself a surprisingly cheap HEDT workstation with a ton of lanes.
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Doubt they'll kill the 1900x Anytime Soon as it's a good design for heavy I/O loads due to the full 64 PCIE lanes. What I suspect is they'll do is continue offering it as it fills the hole between Ryzen 9 and Epyc. Both the 1920 and 1950 threadrippers will dissappear since the 2920 & 2950 are already available for the enthuisist market.

What folks buy the 1900x for is that I/O capabiity as File Servers and such tend to need lots of that. Even makes a solid Web Server (mid range maybe) but still quite useful. I've looked into using one for a home file server - store everything on it with minmal storage on the local machines in the range of 64GB if I can find them with decent specs.

Enough to boot Windows and provide some local storage but everything else on the network.
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Doubt they'll kill the 1900x Anytime Soon as it's a good design for heavy I/O loads due to the full 64 PCIE lanes. What I suspect is they'll do is continue offering it as it fills the hole between Ryzen 9 and Epyc. Both the 1920 and 1950 threadrippers will dissappear since the 2920 & 2950 are already available for the enthuisist market.

What folks buy the 1900x for is that I/O capabiity as File Servers and such tend to need lots of that. Even makes a solid Web Server (mid range maybe) but still quite useful. I've looked into using one for a home file server - store everything on it with minmal storage on the local machines in the range of 64GB if I can find them with decent specs.

Enough to boot Windows and provide some local storage but everything else on the network.
I wouldn't count on TR2 to be around after TR3 is released, TR1 and Ryzen 1000 will still be available because AMD is still making Epyc1.
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i just said it in another thread, whoever sells us the most lanes @ the lowest cost will get many of our $$$$$

why? cuz of the above. We wanna run 1-2 GPUs @ 16x each + 2-4 NVMe @ 4x each... Why? Cuz some of us like to keep a ton of ultra-fast data on our gaming PC & are tired of the now old & tired SATA SSD raid solutions. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]

not to mention most of us in the above are @ resolutions where 1-2% CPU nonsense means nothing.
If you just want a ton of lanes, a TR 1900X and ASRock X399 phantom Gaming 6(3x x16; 3x x4; 1x x2) can already be had for less than €500 if you buy at the right time, I don't see 62 lanes getting much cheaper any time soon.
Still the MB is x16-x8-x16-x8.

The rest of lanes is for m.2 😞

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