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[Tom's Hardware] LG's 1ms Response Time IPS Gaming Monitors Are a First

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lg...850,39635.html

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During the E3 gaming conference this week, LG announced the world's first IPS displays with a 1ms response time with the LG UltraGear Nano IPS lineup. We’ve seen TN and VA panels sporting this feature, but not in IPS form until now. LG achieved this using Nano IPS technology for a fast response time, as well as accurate color reproduction and a refresh rate of 144 Hz-plus.

The new displays have gamers talking because of that response time spec. That's how long it takes for a monitor to change the color of its individual pixels. Slower response times means ghosting and worse picture quality. Plus, this speed is all packed into an IPS panel, a technology known for its superior color and viewing angles. IPS panels also tend to be pricier than their TN and VA counterparts, so interested parties will have to keep an eye on that price tag.
Pre-orders are available July 1st for the 27" inch: https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27...gaming-monitor

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38...gaming-monitor
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The 3840x1600 panel @ 175hz panel looks really interesting. Hopefully it's not a billion dollars.

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Admittedly the slower response time compared to TN never prevented me from enjoying my IPS panels more than my TN panels. I'm still rocking my Acer Predator XB271HU, which I got for free from when that monitor launched. The only thing I imagine worthy of replacing it with would be an OLED monitor. Not to be pretentious but after spending 10k+ hours with my OLED TV, it's difficult to imagine buying another IPS panel. I'm not sitting at a gamer IPS panel and thinking "Oh no, the ghosting!". I'm thinking "Oh no, the contrast!".

It would be nice when marketing has moved beyond the "gamer" gimmick. It's pointless, especially when it comes to IPS. The vast majority of gamers aren't aspiring MLG players. The people who are competitive gamers will just get the fastest TN if their concern is latency or ghosting. It's a crowd of people that is so niche and small - there's frankly not much argument to made for marketing towards them at all.

It's sad when most PC gamers still buy their display technology based on the desire of "owning their enemies", when reality is that the differences in latency between gamer monitors has been extremely small for a long time. Once they reconcile their purchase decision with the reality that they aren't going to be CAL-I, these people will revert to boasting about how nice the motion is, while completely ignoring the big lacking aspects of picture quality.

The monitor display market has effectively programmed most gamers to care about minuscule amounts of ghosting or milliseconds of input lag while simultaneously convincing these people somehow not to care about how good their game looks on their expensive $xxxx gaming rigs. It's not just displays either oddly enough. Gamers also buy crappy "gaming headphones" and "gaming speakers" en masse. Crazy world we live in.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
The 3840x1600 panel @ 175hz panel looks really interesting. Hopefully it's not a billion dollars.

I wouldn't count on that

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
The 3840x1600 panel @ 175hz panel looks really interesting. Hopefully it's not a billion dollars.
Oh it'll be a least a billion Zimbabwean dollars guaranteed.

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Gsync compatible vs gsync...? Same thing or the 27" doesn't have an actual gsync module?
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Quote: Originally Posted by asuindasun View Post
Gsync compatible vs gsync...? Same thing or the 27" doesn't have an actual gsync module?
Correct it doesn't have a module but is both NVIDIA® G-SYNC® Compatible and Adaptive-Sync (FreeSync™) Compatible

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Don't care unless they've gotten rid of glow. Glow 1st then latency imo.
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Glow is not an issue on good IPS panels, not in such a horrific way as it is on AUO's AHVA. Plus it can be almost entirely eliminated by using a filter (ATW polarizer it used to be called), sadly they don't make monitor sized panels with these anymore (for regular people to buy) as it's damn too good and no one would want to buy anything else. It's a long solved issue, they just don't care to offer products with the solution. It's not expensive either, or difficult, cheap mobile sized Chinese IPS have it.

1ms response time is almost always a strobing backlight specs. Not the actual panel response time average.

Agreed with above, IPS is often OK response time wise, most decent ones are under 10ms for a long time and some with good OD get even below 5ms. The issue with IPS and all LCD really for that matter is contrast = how low the black level can go. This can only be resolved with dual layer IPS and or microLED backlight.
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Correct it doesn't have a module but is both NVIDIA® G-SYNC® Compatible and Adaptive-Sync (FreeSync™) Compatible
Does nVidia still sell GSync modules individually? If not then saying it's "GSync compatible" is quite meaningless.

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