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[Tom's Hardware] AMD Secure Technology PSP Firmware Now Explorable, Thanks to Researcher's Tool

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ps...are,39590.html

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A security researcher this week released the PSPtool, a software tool that “aims to lower the entry barrier for looking into the code running" on the AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP), officially known as AMD Secure Technology, and other AMD subsystems. The PSP serves similar functions to those of Intel’s Management Engine (ME) processor. However, just like the Intel ME, the secretive and undocumented nature of the chip worries security and privacy advocates.

Previous Intel ME and AMD PSP vulnerabilities were also discovered by such researchers, and similar discoveries are likely to come in the future. If Intel or AMD had ever built any tools or left any security holes that could allow intelligence agencies to hack into any computer they want, now may be a good time to remove or close them. Because we’re likely not going back to a world of obscurity in regards to how microprocessors work and what they do to our PCs in the background.

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Last year there was a community push for AMD to open source the PSP, AMD said they would look into it but they eventually said no. Open sourcing the PSP would allow the use of coreboot/libreboot with newer processors and plug any possible holes.

I just installed the tool.

This is from an Asrock X370 Tachi 5.50 UEFI


Code:
+-----------+---------+------+-----------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr  | Type |   Magic   | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+---------+------+-----------+---------------------+
|     0     | 0x21000 | XHCI | \x80\xf8 |          --         |
+-----------+---------+------+-----------+---------------------+
Warning: Parsing of b'\x80\x07\xf8\x00' not supported.


+-----------+---------+---------+-------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr  |   Type  | Magic | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+---------+---------+-------+---------------------+
|     1     | 0xa8000 | PSP_DIR |  $PSP |          --         |
+-----------+---------+---------+-------+---------------------+
+---+-------+----------+------------+-----------------------------+----------+----------------+------------+
|   | Entry |  Address |       Size | Type (Magic)                |  Version |      Signed by |       Info |
+---+-------+----------+------------+-----------------------------+----------+----------------+------------+
|   |     0 |  0xa9000 |      0x240 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY              |          | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |     pubkey |
|   |     1 |  0xe0000 |     0x8000 | PSP_FW_BOOT_LOADER (o.)     | 0.5.0.45 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |            |
|   |     2 |  0xe8000 |    0x14000 | SMU_OFFCHIP_FW              |  0.0.0.0 |                | compressed |
|   |     3 |  0xaa000 |     0x6000 | PSP_FW_RECOVERY_BOOT_LOADER | 0.5.0.45 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |            |
|   |     4 | 0xfff000 |     0x1000 | BIOS_RTM_FIRMWARE           |          |                |            |
|   |     5 |  0xfc000 |    0x24000 | PSP_FW_TRUSTED_OS (&)       | 0.5.0.45 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     6 |  0x87000 |    0x10000 | PSP_NV_DATA                 |          |                |            |
|   |     7 | 0x120000 |    0x14000 | PSP_SMU_FN_FIRMWARE         |  0.0.0.0 |                | compressed |
|   |     8 |  0xb0000 |      0x340 | AMD_SEC_DBG_PUBLIC_KEY      |          | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |     pubkey |
|   |     9 |      0x1 | 0xffffffff | AMD_SOFT_FUSE_CHAIN_01      |          |                |            |
|   |    10 |  0xb1000 |      0x340 | PSP_BOOT_TIME_TRUSTLETS_KEY |          | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |     pubkey |
|   |    11 | 0x134000 |     0x8000 | PSP_AGESA_RESUME_FW         | 0.5.0.3E | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    12 | 0x13c000 |     0xb000 | SMU_OFF_CHIP_FW_2           |  0.0.0.0 |                | compressed |
|   |    13 | 0x147000 |    0x20000 | !PSP_MCLF_TRUSTLETS         |  0.0.0.0 |                | compressed |
|   |    14 | 0x167000 |     0xb000 | !SMU_OFF_CHIP_FW_3          |  0.0.0.0 |                | compressed |
|   |    15 | 0x172000 |     0x1000 | FW_PSP_SMUSCS               |          |                |            |
|   |    16 | 0x173000 |     0x1000 | !FW_PSP_SMUSCS_2            |          |                |            |
|   |    17 | 0x174000 |     0x3000 | PSP_S3_NV_DATA              |          |                |  duplicate |
+---+-------+----------+------------+-----------------------------+----------+----------------+------------+


+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr   |   Type  | Magic | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
|     2     | 0x48f000 | PSP_NEW |  $PSP |          --         |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
+---+-------+----------+------------+--------------------------------+-------------+----------------+------------+
|   | Entry |  Address |       Size | Type (Magic)                   |     Version |      Signed by |       Info |
+---+-------+----------+------------+--------------------------------+-------------+----------------+------------+
|   |     0 | 0x48f400 |      0x440 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY                 |             | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |     pubkey |
|   |     1 | 0x48f900 |    0x10000 | PSP_FW_BOOT_LOADER ($PS1)      |    0.D.0.15 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |            |
|   |     2 | 0x49f900 |     0xe3d0 | PSP_FW_TRUSTED_OS ($PS1)       |    0.D.0.15 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |            |
|   |     3 |  0x87000 |    0x20000 | PSP_NV_DATA                    |             |                |  duplicate |
|   |     4 | 0x4add00 |    0x17900 | SMU_OFFCHIP_FW ($PS1)          |    0.2E.B.0 |                | compressed |
|   |     5 | 0x4c5600 |      0x640 | AMD_SEC_DBG_PUBLIC_KEY         |             | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |     pubkey |
|   |     6 |      0x1 | 0xffffffff | AMD_SOFT_FUSE_CHAIN_01         |             |                |            |
|   |     7 | 0x4c5d00 |    0x1c100 | PSP_BOOT_TIME_TRUSTLETS ($PS1) |     0.7.0.1 |                |            |
|   |     8 | 0x4e1e00 |      0x420 | SMU_OFF_CHIP_FW_2 ($PS1)       |    0.2E.B.0 |                | compressed |
|   |     9 | 0x4e2300 |     0x1da0 | 0x13 ($PS1)                    |    0.D.0.15 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    10 | 0x4e4100 |       0x10 | 0x21                           |             |                |            |
|   |    11 | 0x4e5000 |     0x1000 | 0x22                           |             |                |  duplicate |
|   |    12 | 0x4e6000 |     0x2440 | 0x24 ($PS1)                    |    1.C.0.31 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |            |
|   |    13 | 0x4e8500 |    0x13890 | 0x28 ($PS1)                    |    0.D.0.15 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |            |
|   |    14 | 0x4fbe00 |     0xbf10 | 0x2a ($PS1)                    |    0.2E.B.0 |                | compressed |
|   |    15 | 0x507e00 |    0x81d90 | 0x30 (@AW)                     | 91.16.20.40 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
+---+-------+----------+------------+--------------------------------+-------------+----------------+------------+


+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr   |   Type  | Magic | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
|     3     | 0x310000 | PSP_NEW |  $PSP |          --         |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
+---+-------+----------+------------+--------------------------------+-----------+----------------+------------+
|   | Entry |  Address |       Size | Type (Magic)                   |   Version |      Signed by |       Info |
+---+-------+----------+------------+--------------------------------+-----------+----------------+------------+
|   |     0 | 0x310400 |      0x240 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY                 |           | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |     pubkey |
|   |     1 | 0x310700 |     0xc300 | PSP_FW_BOOT_LOADER ($PS1)      |  0.8.0.5E | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | encrypted? |
|   |     2 | 0x31ca00 |     0xf300 | PSP_FW_TRUSTED_OS ($PS1)       |  0.8.0.5E | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |            |
|   |     3 |  0x87000 |    0x20000 | PSP_NV_DATA                    |           |                |  duplicate |
|   |     4 | 0x32bd00 |    0x203d0 | SMU_OFFCHIP_FW                 |   0.0.0.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     5 | 0x34c100 |      0x340 | AMD_SEC_DBG_PUBLIC_KEY         |           | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |     pubkey |
|   |     6 |      0x1 | 0xffffffff | AMD_SOFT_FUSE_CHAIN_01         |           |                |            |
|   |     7 | 0x34c500 |    0x11a50 | PSP_BOOT_TIME_TRUSTLETS ($PS1) |   0.7.0.1 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     8 | 0x35e000 |     0x48e0 | SMU_OFF_CHIP_FW_2              |   0.0.0.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     9 | 0x362900 |     0x1930 | 0x13 ($PS1)                    |  0.8.0.5E | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    10 | 0x364300 |       0x10 | 0x21                           |           |                |            |
|   |    11 | 0x365000 |     0x1000 | 0x22                           |           |                |  duplicate |
|   |    12 | 0x366000 |     0x1860 | 0x24 ($PS1)                    |  A.2.3.27 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | encrypted? |
|   |    13 | 0x367900 |     0x1760 | 0x124 ($PS1)                   |  A.2.3.1A | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | encrypted? |
|   |    14 | 0x369100 |     0x1860 | 0x224 ($PS1)                   |  A.2.3.27 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY |  duplicate |
|   |       |          |            |                                |           |                | encrypted? |
|   |    15 | 0x36aa00 |     0x22f1 | 0x25                           |  3.18.0.1 |                |            |
|   |    16 | 0x36cd00 |     0x3b00 | 0x125                          |   3.2.2.1 |                |            |
|   |    17 | 0x370800 |     0x23e4 | 0x225                          |   4.2.1.1 |                |            |
|   |    18 | 0x372c00 |    0x18790 | 0x28 ($PS1)                    |  0.8.0.5E | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | encrypted? |
|   |    19 | 0x38b400 |      0xdd0 | 0x30 (AW0B)                    | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    20 | 0x38c200 |     0xcc30 | 0x31~ABL_ARM_CODE~ (AW1B)      | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    21 | 0x398f00 |     0x91c0 | 0x32 (AW2B)                    | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    22 | 0x3a2100 |     0xbc00 | 0x33 (AW3B)                    | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    23 | 0x3add00 |     0xcca0 | 0x34 (AW4B)                    | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    24 | 0x3baa00 |     0xca80 | 0x35 (AW5B)                    | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    25 | 0x3c7500 |     0x9fa0 | 0x36 (AW6B)                    | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    26 | 0x3d1500 |     0xc720 | 0x37 (AW7B)                    | 19.1.14.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    27 | 0x3ddd00 |    0x20420 | PSP_SMU_FN_FIRMWARE            |   0.0.0.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    28 | 0x3fe200 |     0x4f90 | !SMU_OFF_CHIP_FW_3             |   0.0.0.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    29 | 0x403200 |    0x22550 | 0x208                          |   0.0.0.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    30 | 0x425800 |     0x7190 | 0x212                          |   0.0.0.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
+---+-------+----------+------------+--------------------------------+-----------+----------------+------------+


+-----------+----------+------+-------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr   | Type | Magic | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+----------+------+-------+---------------------+
|     4     | 0x2f0000 | BHD  |  $BHD |          --         |
+-----------+----------+------+-------+---------------------+
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+-----------+-----------+------------+
|   | Entry |  Address |     Size | Type (Magic)        |   Version | Signed by |       Info |
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+-----------+-----------+------------+
|   |     0 | 0x2f1000 |   0x2000 | 0x100060            |           |           |            |
|   |     1 | 0x2f3000 |   0x2000 | 0x100068            |           |           |  duplicate |
|   |     2 | 0x2f5000 |   0x2000 | FW_IMC              |           |           |            |
|   |     3 | 0x2f7000 |   0x2000 | 0x200060            |           |           |            |
|   |     4 | 0x2f9000 |   0x2000 | 0x68                |           |           |  duplicate |
|   |     5 | 0x2fb000 |   0x2000 | 0x200068            |           |           |  duplicate |
|   |     6 |      0x0 |      0x0 | FW_GEC              |           |           |            |
|   |     7 | 0xd00000 | 0x300000 | 0x30062~UEFI-IMAGE~ |           |           |            |
|   |     8 |  0xb8000 |  0x28000 | FW_INVALID          |           |           |  duplicate |
|   |     9 | 0x2fd000 |    0xc80 | 0x66                |           |           |            |
|   |    10 | 0x2fdd00 |    0xc80 | 0x100066            |           |           |            |
|   |    11 | 0x2fea00 |    0xc80 | 0x200066            |           |           |            |
|   |    12 | 0x2ff700 |    0xc80 | 0x300066            |           |           |            |
|   |    13 | 0x300400 |    0xc80 | 0x400066            |           |           |            |
|   |    14 | 0x301100 |   0x3c40 | 0x100064 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 |           | compressed |
|   |    15 | 0x304e00 |    0x330 | 0x100065 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 |           | compressed |
|   |    16 | 0x305200 |   0x4610 | 0x400064 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 |           | compressed |
|   |    17 | 0x309900 |    0x320 | 0x400065 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 |           | compressed |
|   |    18 | 0x30a000 |   0x1000 | 0x67                |           |           |  duplicate |
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+-----------+-----------+------------+


+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr   |   Type  | Magic | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
|     5     | 0x45f000 | unknown |  $BHD |          --         |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+-----------+----------------+------------+
|   | Entry |  Address |     Size | Type (Magic)        |   Version |      Signed by |       Info |
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+-----------+----------------+------------+
|   |     0 | 0x460000 |   0x2000 | 0x100060 (5)        |   0.3.9.1 |                |            |
|   |     1 | 0x462000 |   0x2000 | 0x100068 (5)        |   0.3.9.1 |                |  duplicate |
|   |     2 | 0x464000 |   0x2000 | FW_IMC              |   0.3.9.1 |                |            |
|   |     3 | 0x466000 |   0x2000 | 0x68                |   0.3.9.1 |                |  duplicate |
|   |     4 |      0x0 |      0x0 | FW_GEC              |           |                |            |
|   |     5 | 0xd00000 | 0x300000 | 0x30062~UEFI-IMAGE~ |           |                |            |
|   |     6 |  0xb8000 |  0x28000 | FW_INVALID          |           |                |  duplicate |
|   |     7 | 0x468000 |   0x3c40 | 0x100064 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     8 | 0x46bd00 |    0x330 | 0x100065 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     9 | 0x46c100 |   0x4610 | 0x400064 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    10 | 0x470800 |    0x320 | 0x400065 (0x05)     | 0.0.A1.41 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    11 | 0x470c00 |   0x4830 | 0x1100064 (0x05)    |  0.0.18.5 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    12 | 0x475500 |    0x370 | 0x1100065 (0x05)    |  0.0.18.5 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    13 | 0x475900 |   0x47a0 | 0x1400064 (0x05)    |  0.0.18.5 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    14 | 0x47a100 |    0x340 | 0x1400065 (0x05)    |  0.0.18.5 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    15 | 0x47a500 |    0xc80 | 0x66                |           |                |            |
|   |    16 | 0x47b200 |    0xc80 | 0x100066            |           |                |            |
|   |    17 | 0x47bf00 |    0xc80 | 0x200066            |           |                |            |
|   |    18 | 0x47cc00 |    0xc80 | 0x300066            |           |                |            |
|   |    19 | 0x47d900 |    0xc80 | 0x400066            |           |                |            |
|   |    20 | 0x47e600 |    0xc80 | 0x500066            |           |                |            |
|   |    21 | 0x47f300 |    0x560 | 0x6a                |   0.0.0.0 |                |            |
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+-----------+----------------+------------+


+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr   |   Type  | Magic | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
|     6     | 0x62f000 | unknown |  $BHD |          --         |
+-----------+----------+---------+-------+---------------------+
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+----------+----------------+------------+
|   | Entry |  Address |     Size | Type (Magic)        |  Version |      Signed by |       Info |
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+----------+----------------+------------+
|   |     0 | 0x630000 |   0x4000 | 0x68                |          |                |            |
|   |     1 | 0x634000 |   0x1000 | FW_IMC (0)          |  0.0.0.0 |                |            |
|   |     2 | 0x635000 |    0x208 | 0x800068 (0)        |  0.0.0.0 |                |  duplicate |
|   |     3 |      0x0 |      0x0 | FW_GEC              |          |                |            |
|   |     4 | 0xd00000 | 0x300000 | 0x30062~UEFI-IMAGE~ |          |                |            |
|   |     5 |  0xb8000 |  0x28000 | FW_INVALID          |          |                |  duplicate |
|   |     6 | 0x635300 |   0x4930 | 0x1100064 (0x05)    | 0.0.10.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     7 | 0x639d00 |    0x460 | 0x1100065 (0x05)    | 0.0.10.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     8 | 0x63a200 |   0x4bd0 | 0x1400064 (0x05)    | 0.0.10.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |     9 | 0x63ee00 |    0x440 | 0x1400065 (0x05)    | 0.0.10.0 | AMD_PUBLIC_KEY | compressed |
|   |    10 | 0x63f300 |    0xc80 | 0x66                |          |                |            |
+---+-------+----------+----------+---------------------+----------+----------------+------------+


+-----------+----------+---------+----------+---------------------+
| Directory |   Addr   |   Type  |  Magic   | Secondary Directory |
+-----------+----------+---------+----------+---------------------+
|     7     | 0xfffffe | unknown | \xd0\xff |          --         |
+-----------+----------+---------+----------+---------------------+
Warning: Parsing of b'\xd0\xff' not supported.

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Wouldn't making something like this open source also allow those with malicious intent an open look into the code, therefore allowing them to more easily create exploits? Also couldn't it be possible that open source additions could also create problems of their own?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Questors View Post
Wouldn't making something like this open source also allow those with malicious intent an open look into the code, therefore allowing them to more easily create exploits? Also couldn't it be possible that open source additions could also create problems of their own?
Well, security through obscurity does work. Until, it gets breached once. Then, probably not.

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Wow... This is so stupid.

So there's a security system implemented into a processor so that it cannot be randomly hijacked by external users. Then people complain that because they can't hack the security system, they don't know if there isn't something malicious included in it. They then demand that the system's construction and functionality be fully disclosed so that it can be proven that there's nothing malicious. And in the process, how it can be defeated...

What is the point of locking your door if you're telling everyone how the keys are made?

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Wouldn't making something like this open source also allow those with malicious intent an open look into the code, therefore allowing them to more easily create exploits?
Or... maybe... the complete opposite... and it being... reviewed... by the community... make it... easier... and faster... to fix...

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Also couldn't it be possible that open source additions could also create problems of their own?
When you commit code to an open source project it is reviewed.

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Wow... This is so stupid.

So there's a security system implemented into a processor so that it cannot be randomly hijacked by external users. Then people complain that because they can't hack the security system, they don't know if there isn't something malicious included in it. They then demand that the system's construction and functionality be fully disclosed so that it can be proven that there's nothing malicious. And in the process, how it can be defeated...

What is the point of locking your door if you're telling everyone how the keys are made?
Windows is an obscure black box and Linux is open source. Guess which one is far more robust and safe.

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lol linux is only so called safe because there is not enough users to make it worth exploiting the tightwads

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Are you for-real? Linux has more users than any other OS if you count server and iot.... linux's open nature is it's power because anyone can extend or fix issues in the source code that can be dimmeminated to everyone since all code 'distributed' has to be released publicly meaning good patches make their way upstream so everyone benefits from everyone else's efforts. HEck! even the NSA uses linux and created Security Enhanced Linux which is a protocol to restrict access to certain parts of the system through mandatory access controls that must be set at boot so no changing this on the fly! Linux is a solid block of cheese compared to the Swiss cheese that windows is.

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lol linux is only so called safe because there is not enough users to make it worth exploiting the tightwads
If you're trying to make fun of yourself I can only bow to you.

Linux market share in top one million domains in the world is over 95%. It there's something worth attacking it is there.
It is 100% of Top 500 Supercomputers.

This is the level of OC.net for you. Two guys that don't even know how open source works and then another trolling/embarrassing himself.

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If you're trying to make fun of yourself I can only bow to you.

Linux market share in top one million domains in the world is over 95%. It there's something worth attacking it is there.
It is 100% of Top 500 Supercomputers.

This is the level of OC.net for you. Two guys that don't even know how open source works and then another trolling/embarrassing himself.
And the reason that linux is used servers and super computers is because admins don't require GUIs. Stripped down to a command line interface nets you performance. When you add in the GUI, you sacrifice performance. Unfortunately, most end users aren't code literate and therefore prefer an OS like windows or OSX.

If we're talking about what the majority of end users are using (desktop, laptop) you'll see that linux accounts for less than 1.5% of total users. If that isn't niche, I don't know what is.

Your personal attacks do NOTHING to aid in the conversation, and I don't understand why you feel they're necessary.

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