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post #191 of 261 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 04:50 PM
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Gaming X has more RGB and as far as I can tell the Gaming X has higher power limit , 4 extra powerblocks, a full baseplate instead of directtouch heatpipe (also one seems to be 8mm thick), a VRM heatsink plate rather than a thermal pad to contact the main heatsink, and possibly higher binning to reach the minorly higher clockspeed. This is based off reviews *.

Is there a decent list of VRM for GTX 1660 - RTX 2060? I was eyeing Zotac 1660, but I was originally wanting to get Strix stuff for hypothetically longer durability. (And possibly lower noise, thought RTX cards would be noisy anyway.)
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Is there a decent list of VRM for GTX 1660 - RTX 2060? I was eyeing Zotac 1660, but I was originally wanting to get Strix stuff for hypothetically longer durability. (And possibly lower noise, thought RTX cards would be noisy anyway.)
Zotac usually uses the cheaper powerpaks on its PCBs but as long as they cool it shouldn't matter because people don't keep their gaming GPUs very long anyway (if it were a pro card it would not be an option). All of the RTX 2060 cards also lack VR-link / USB-C except for the premium model Aorus card and the Founder's Edition. If you look at the cards overall generally the main concern is not power delivery (due to power limits) but the cooling on the GPU itself.

The problem with the MSI Ventus line is that it generally uses a plastic backplate and lacks fan stop options , while the Armor line does have fan stop and according to mSI they have thermal pads on the backplate for Armor lineup which suggests it's not a plastic backplate.

I would get the dual fan EVGA SC/XC dual fan if I were looking at RTX 2060 just for the step-up option, with the caveat of turning down the fan profile (also multi-monitor support will be sparser due to the display outputs). RTX 2060 Super has more VRAM, more RT cores, more memory bandwidth , but RTX 2070 is the same price with even more RT Cores and CUDA cores...
---> Zotac RTX 2060 (note the discrete high+low side fets) http://www.coolpc.com.tw/phpBB2/view...?f=52&t=255443
---> RTX 2060 XC Ultra https://www.techpowerup.com/review/e...c-ultra/5.html
---> RTX 2060 MSI Gaming X https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/st...?gpu_gpus=4200

Right now the MSI GTX 1660 Gaming X is $215 which makes the MSI Ventus for $214 pointless. Then again the GTX 1660 line is pretty weak when the GTX 1660 Ti exists with GDDR6 that massively improved memory bandwidth.
---> GTX 1660 Gaming X PCB : https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/st...?gpu_gpus=4413
---> GTX 1660 Ventus PCB: https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/st...?gpu_gpus=4426



I'd say the GTX 1660 Ti Armor at ~$250 is far better for the money however: https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-g...82E16814137390

Unless you need CUDA , Gsync (i.e. you have a GSYNC monitor that doesn't have Freesync), tensor cores, or RT cores it's probably better to get a $350ish RX 5700 when the aftermarket cards come along.

Techspot did an article on this comparing Ventus with Gaming X: https://www.techspot.com/review/1861...graphics-card/

The only cards making sense in the Nvidia midtier lineup right now are GTX1660 ti at $250ish (for non-RT use), $400 RTX 2070 (instead of RTX 2060 Super), and $500 RTX2070 Super really. For $1K you can get RTX 2080 Ti , but less than that the RTX 2080 isn't much faster than RTX 2070 Super.

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The only cards making sense in the Nvidia midtier lineup right now are GTX1660 ti at $250ish (for non-RT use), $400 RTX 2070 (instead of RTX 2060 Super), and $500 RTX2070 Super really. For $1K you can get RTX 2080 Ti , but less than that the RTX 2080 isn't much faster than RTX 2070 Super.
Considering state kinda screwed up my pension, I'm in group of these who want theirs card to last far longer than 3 year warranty. What's the durability of Micron GDDR6 on 1660 Ti?
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Micron GDDR6 has an initial bad batch with the RTX cards but I haven't see any major complaints since.


If the memory is cooled it should just be a "bathtub curve" for reliability just as many other things are.


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So if i've got this right :

5700XT is about the same performance as a 2070 but slower than the 2070 super and about 60-80 bucks cheaper?

5700 is better than the 2060 but slower than the 2060 super and 100 bucks cheaper?

If i have a 1070 - which is heavily overclocked and performs at/better than a stock 1070 Ti - the only logical upgrade here is a 2070/5700xt or higher?
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Quote: Originally Posted by b0uncyfr0 View Post
So if i've got this right :

5700XT is about the same performance as a 2070 but slower than the 2070 super and about 60-80 bucks cheaper?

5700 is better than the 2060 but slower than the 2060 super and 100 bucks cheaper?

If i have a 1070 - which is heavily overclocked and performs at/better than a stock 1070 Ti - the only logical upgrade here is a 2070/5700xt or higher?
5700 xt ($400) is only 4% slower then the 2070 Super, $100 cheaper, 5700 XT ($400) is 10% faster then the 2060 Super ($400)
5700 ($350) is faster then the 2060($350) by 10% and faster then the 2060 Super ($400) by 2%
https://www.techspot.com/review/1870...adeon-rx-5700/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...xt,6216-2.html





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I'd love to got for the 5700xt over the 2070 super I plan to buy and save the $$$ but I have a couple issues(AIB models may solve some)
1. AMDs lackluster performance in UE games, which is most of what I play
2. Noise and heat. Maybe aftermarket coolers will get this down, but I don't even hear my 1070. My last two cards from AMD were also pretty audible, one a tri-x and other nitro
3. I hate to be that guy and say this but I haven't had a single driver problem since I switched to Nvidia. I use to have constant issues with AMD drivers(excluding my 290x)

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Quote: Originally Posted by treetops422 View Post
5700 xt ($400) is only 4% slower then the 2070 Super, $100 cheaper, 5700 XT ($400) is 10% faster then the 2060 Super ($400)
5700 ($350) is faster then the 2060($350) by 10% and faster then the 2060 Super ($400) by 2%
https://www.techspot.com/review/1870...adeon-rx-5700/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...xt,6216-2.html




Tiny test suite, on both those reviews. The 5700 series has a trash cooler. Pay the $100 extra for better cooling and 12% more performance.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...700-xt/28.html

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I'd love to got for the 5700xt over the 2070 super I plan to buy and save the $$$ but I have a couple issues(AIB models may solve some)
1. AMDs lackluster performance in UE games, which is most of what I play
2. Noise and heat. Maybe aftermarket coolers will get this down, but I don't even hear my 1070. My last two cards from AMD were also pretty audible, one a tri-x and other nitro
3. I hate to be that guy and say this but I haven't had a single driver problem since I switched to Nvidia. I use to have constant issues with AMD drivers(excluding my 290x)
You don't need to justify your purchase to anyone. If you play a lot of UE4 games, then yeah it makes absolutely no sense to get AMD. Likewise, the opposite holds true for someone playing a lot of Frostbite games.

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Yep, UE is trash unfortunately (I mean, unfortunately is popular) they just spit in face of amd owners

5700 is a great series from amd (reminds me of 5850/5870 era) but until you don't want to LC or play with the card in undervolt, better wait AIBs model, nvidia is overpriced right now until you take a sale on old cards

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