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Hopefully the anniversary edition products is finished. If not all the AIB 5700 XTs cards overclock the same. As long as junction temp is below 115c get a card based off of aesthics or an anniversary edition with a block.
The lower the junction the better. Scaling is better. It's not just about being 115c or under. Plus your room is going to be hot as crap after a gaming session. The Nitro is the card to get IMO.

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Seriously dude?!?! What review are you looking at? This thing is more often than not matching or besting the 2070S, even embarrassing the 2080S in a couple of titles and somehow you drag it down to 2070 level performance. Are you joking?
Lol, the 5700XT beats the 2080s in one game according to your link (BF) and is comparable to the 2060S in more titles than that. Heck, it even loses to the 1070 Ti in one!

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Well yeah that seems reasonable. Take the most expensive 5700xt models and compare it to the cheapest 2070 (eol) and 2070s models.
I agree it isn't the best comp; but I see an EVGA 2070 Black at $450 [$435 with rebate] at my local microcenter, which I guess could be "cheating" as I do not really see it elsewhere. At that price, I think $30 to get a card sooner rather than later is fair. Honestly, it seems hard to go wrong in the ~$400-450 bracket this go around. Really depends on what is available to you I guess.

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If priced the same, you may have had a semblance of a point. The crap I responded to is right in your post, the one I quoted. You put it as "same performance as old 2070" and now you're revising your crap. Maybe take your own advise about learning to read and doing research.
Are they not the same as the "old 2070?" Again, according to your link, the Gaming X 5700 XT is at ~6.4% better than the 2070 they compared it against at 1440p (the difference between the two is less at 1080p and 4k). ~5% (TO ME) is close enough that they might as well be the same. Saying it is the same as the 2070 seems a lot more accurate than saying the XT beats the 2080S in a couple of titles without noting that it loses to lesser cards in others.

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The Nitro is a great card and the edge/junction temps are pretty phenomenal. It should be the go to choice for 5700XT.

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Yep, I like the Nitro a lot, can't really go wrong with any of the Red Devil/Gaming X/Nitro/Pulse IMO. All really good, just comes down to availability.
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Lol, the 5700XT beats the 2080s in one game according to your link (BF) and is comparable to the 2060S in more titles than that. Heck, it even loses to the 1070 Ti in one!

Are they not the same as the "old 2070?" Again, according to your link, the Gaming X 5700 XT is at ~6.4% better than the 2070 they compared it against at 1440p (the difference between the two is less at 1080p and 4k). ~5% (TO ME) is close enough that they might as well be the same. Saying it is the same as the 2070 seems a lot more accurate than saying the XT beats the 2080S in a couple of titles without noting that it loses to lesser cards in others.

So by your logic, given that the gap between the 2070S and the XT is similar to that between the 2060S and the XT,(two cards you deem "comparable") Can we say the same for the former pair? If so, then I guess you're a half empty guy and I'm a half full guy and we're just talking around each other.
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Lol, the 5700XT beats the 2080s in one game according to your link (BF) and is comparable to the 2060S in more titles than that. Heck, it even loses to the 1070 Ti in one!


Are they not the same as the "old 2070?" Again, according to your link, the Gaming X 5700 XT is at ~6.4% better than the 2070 they compared it against at 1440p (the difference between the two is less at 1080p and 4k). ~5% (TO ME) is close enough that they might as well be the same. Saying it is the same as the 2070 seems a lot more accurate than saying the XT beats the 2080S in a couple of titles without noting that it loses to lesser cards in others.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1902...adeon-5700-xt/

They trade blows. 2% and 6%. Might as well be the same right?

It all depends on the review suite as well. Some sites have a very biased slate of games and game engines, still using Heaven for comparisons, etc...

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So by your logic, given that the gap between the 2070S and the XT is similar to that between the 2060S and the XT,(two cards you deem "comparable") Can we say the same for the former pair? If so, then I guess you're a half empty guy and I'm a half full guy and we're just talking around each other.
Without a doubt! But that isn't what it seemed like was being argued (at least that wasn't how I read what was going on), which was: someone said the XT is comparable to the 2070, someone [not naming names!] said it was better than the 2080S! I was just saying that it being comparable to the 2070 is more accurate than the 2080S. I honestly think that without counting the beans, it would be really hard to tell the difference between any of the cards in this range [2060S, 2070, 2070S, XT, VII, 1080ti, even the 2080]. Great time to buy cards in this range (even if the prices are 'high,' really no obviously wrong choices).

I am 110% glass half empty though!

Quote: Originally Posted by Dmac73 View Post
https://www.techspot.com/review/1902...adeon-5700-xt/

They trade blows. 2% and 6%. Might as well be the same right?

It all depends on the review suite as well. Some sites have a very biased slate of games and game engines, still using Heaven for comparisons, etc...
Agreed, TPU is my go to, as I usually go from nV to nV cards anyways (stupid g-sync monitor! [always been an ATI/AMD fan]); that and someone used it 'first,' but they could really use a suite overhaul (though, I guess their games are pretty relevant for me at least).
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Without a doubt! But that isn't what it seemed like was being argued (at least that wasn't how I read what was going on), which was: someone said the XT is comparable to the 2070, someone [not naming names!] said it was better than the 2080S! I was just saying that it being comparable to the 2070 is more accurate than the 2080S. I honestly think that without counting the beans, it would be really hard to tell the difference between any of the cards in this range [2060S, 2070, 2070S, XT, VII, 1080ti, even the 2080]. Great time to buy cards in this range (even if the prices are 'high,' really no obviously wrong choices).

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Agreed, TPU is my go to, as I usually go from nV to nV cards anyways (stupid g-sync monitor! [always been an ATI/AMD fan]); that and someone used it 'first,' but they could really use a suite overhaul (though, I guess their games are pretty relevant for me at least).
TPU has a pretty biased suite, they have some games that hardly anyone plays that are heavily nvidia optimized and they still use Heaven as an OC comparison like it's 2009 again. I like TPU but i don't care for their reviews or overall test suite. I came from a 2070 to 5700XT and it spanks the 2070.

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2140 isnt close to the upper limit of the rx 5700 xt i wonder why they dont try a 1.9 or 2ghz clock on the Radeon VII
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2140 isnt close to the upper limit of the rx 5700 xt i wonder why they dont try a 1.9 or 2ghz clock on the Radeon VII

That's a high game stable core. It's pretty close to your max daily game stable clocks your not going to see much higher through a test bed, regardless of "upper limit" or a quick suicide benchmark run. Same with the Vii seeing as that is the reference cooler on the VII and results from their original review or around that time.

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That's a high game stable core. It's pretty close to your max daily game stable clocks your not going to see much higher through a test bed, regardless of "upper limit" or a quick suicide benchmark run. Same with the Vii seeing as that is the reference cooler on the VII and results from their original review or around that time.
RVII is capable of 2ghz and those arent "suicide runs" and form test it gives at least 9fps+
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