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Let's be realistic here. A 500W card with a closed loop cooler costing $1500 versus a $1200 MSRP RTX 2080 Ti (you can get them ~$1050) that needs less than 300W TDP. Just the RTX alone already sways people towards the RTX 2080 Ti, let alone power/temp/noise and the supposed cost.



For one, there's going to be people with 650-750W PSUs so the people that have overclocked CPUs would need to buy a new PSU to have enough headroom.
People who buy at the high aren't historically known for having much concern for value. A great example of this are ppl that buy Titans for gaming as for that usage I think they hold the title of having the worst p/p ratio. Also on that same note those same ppl wouldn't hesitate to buy a new psu to accommodate their new top tier toy.
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Quote: Originally Posted by maltamonk View Post
People who buy at the high aren't historically known for having much concern for value. A great example of this are ppl that buy Titans for gaming as for that usage I think they hold the title of having the worst p/p ratio. Also on that same note those same ppl wouldn't hesitate to buy a new psu to accommodate their new top tier toy.
People that buy at the high end also tend to want extra features such as RTX.


Also the RTX TITAN has pro driver optimizations similar to VEGA FE.

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Personally if it performed as well as the 2080Ti for $600 i honestly wouldn't care if it sat at 500W. I know most wont see it that way and i do like efficiency but if it brings parity to the market idk that i'll care. HBM as mentioned above would certainly help albeit make it more expensive. Either way exciting times ahead because RDNA is looking better and better. I just hope AMD can be ahead of schedule for once.
If it performed as well as 2080 Ti I can pretty much guarantee it'll be $700 minimum, and more likely $800+.

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If the rumors that people are spreading in here are true and it outperforms a RTX 2080 Ti they could price it at $1500.
EL-OH-EL nobody would buy it if they priced it at $1500 unless it was at least 30% faster, and even then it'd be hard sell. I certainly would not buy such an overpriced card.

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People who buy at the high aren't historically known for having much concern for value. A great example of this are ppl that buy Titans for gaming as for that usage I think they hold the title of having the worst p/p ratio. Also on that same note those same ppl wouldn't hesitate to buy a new psu to accommodate their new top tier toy.
People who buy Titans are the least likely to even look at AMD nevermind actually buying it.

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More on topic I think Navi is supposed to scale down not scale up.


https://www.tweaktown.com/news/66602...gpu/index.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...nch,39887.html
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-14...kernel-patches






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Komachi notes that Compubench displays only half of the actual CU count in RDNA GPUs implying that the 7nm Navi 14 is a 24 CU part with 1,536 SPs. The listing also indicates that the maximum clock speed of this chip is 1,900 MHz with 4 GB of VRAM. While there's no official marketing designation to this card yet, we presume it will be called the RX 5600 and will be AMD's answer to NVIDIA's GTX 1660 series. We see the GPU listed with just 4 GB VRAM, but there is definitely a possibility of both 4 GB and 8 GB SKUs like we saw with the Polaris cards such as the RX 480 and RX 580.
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More on topic I think Navi is supposed to scale down not scale up.


https://www.tweaktown.com/news/66602...gpu/index.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...nch,39887.html
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-14...kernel-patches






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Komachi notes that Compubench displays only half of the actual CU count in RDNA GPUs implying that the 7nm Navi 14 is a 24 CU part with 1,536 SPs. The listing also indicates that the maximum clock speed of this chip is 1,900 MHz with 4 GB of VRAM. While there's no official marketing designation to this card yet, we presume it will be called the RX 5600 and will be AMD's answer to NVIDIA's GTX 1660 series. We see the GPU listed with just 4 GB VRAM, but there is definitely a possibility of both 4 GB and 8 GB SKUs like we saw with the Polaris cards such as the RX 480 and RX 580.
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Arcturus is the Vega replacement and it's going to be a monster. Hopefully it doesn't consume the power like one.

It probably will and be super hot. It seems to be an AMD thing.

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It probably will and be super hot. It seems to be an AMD thing.
I undervolted my Radeon VII yesterday to 1v and it runs at 1900/1250Mhz just fine. Set my fans to 300 rpm and temps only hit 45/65. Power usage is between 130-220w

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